Panel Question

Originally Posted By: psmothers
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Originally Posted By: psmothers
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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Absolutely not. There is a direct tap from the NM at the bottom of the panel to the supply feeders. That 240 volt circuit has no overcurrent protection.


Don't forget to mention the missing bushing or your post may end up on some other message board. . .


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Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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jpope wrote:
Absolutely not. There is a direct tap from the NM at the bottom of the panel to the supply feeders. That 240 volt circuit has no overcurrent protection.

Don't forget to mention the missing bushing or your post may end up on some other message board. . .


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Explain yourself Jeff what do you mean by the "missing bushing?"

PS: What was the arc on the cover, sure hope it wasn't caused when the cover was removed, could have blinded the inspector or owner nearby!


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In light of your recent actions Joe, I have no desire to “entertain” you.


Peter - I don't see the double taps in the lower fuse blocks. Dependant upon the fuse capacity, they appear to be properly wired.

The panel certainly needs some work. Just point out the obvious defects and defer it to an expert for repairs/corrections.


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Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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Joe,


What a sad comment to make...( Am am editing to be nice )

"PS: What was the arc on the cover, sure hope it wasn't caused when the cover was removed, could have blinded the inspector or owner nearby!"

I think we GET your meaning to this......and you are the NEC consultant to the NACHI........


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Originally Posted By: jpope
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After following the blue wires from the top fuse block to the lower block, you can see that they loop through the lower fuses and are tapped back into the upper fuses.


What on earth was this person thinking when they did that?


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Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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no pride in that work…I can assure you of that. I can say this much I would not want to be on the end of that circuit coming out of the bottom of the panel…it has no protection at all…none…zilch…Nadda…


Also based on what I can see and I am having trouble with many of the images posted on here...in seeing things clearly but it also looks like one of the taps on the left LINE.....is also going down and around and wirenutting to a red that feeds a circuit...another circuit with no protection as well.

Yes, I would refer this panel to an Electrician...it has issues.


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Originally Posted By: psmothers
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Thanks Guys, and thanks for the phone call Jeff!


Joe - You have bigger issues at hand to worry about, so dont worry about me!


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Originally Posted By: joetedesco
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It was already there. I wear glasses and am thinking about getting gloves as well. I did not notice it until I was putting the cover back on, but it is surely something I will look for in the future after checking the panel with the back of my hand and before removing the cover. If I would have seen it when I opened the panel access door up I would have gone no futher.



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Originally Posted By: jbushart
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pabernathy wrote:
......and you are the NEC consultant to the NACHI........


Not anymore.


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Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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Comment on the ARC spot…the imfamous Arc Spot…


It is on the cover....the cover had to be opened by the inspector to access the panel and that ARC is a direct point arc....meaning the panel cover was most likely closed at the time of the ARC.....thus the inspector was not in the panel at the time of the ARC and Issue.


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