# Products of Combustion

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**Created:** [January 25, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012 "2004-01-25T00:00:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 25, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/1 "2004-01-25T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: bhendry**  
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We see a gas range with either a recirculating range hood or a microwave above it quite often (no outside exhaust). What are the thoughts on that? Do you point it out?  
  
  
Bill Hendry  
[www.HandyHomeInspections.com](http://www.HandyHomeInspections.com)  

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/2 "2004-01-24T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: Susan**  
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Hi Bill,  
  
  
Not all ranges require exhaust fans and the same with microwaves. In my opinion, it is good to note the lack of fans or the type (direct exhaust, recirculating etc.) if there is one present. Point it out, note it in the report and explain manufacturer's specifications may not require them.  
  
Hope this helps!  
Sue  

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/3 "2004-01-24T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: rpalac**  
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Ranges do not need exhaust as pointed out. Microwaves are also very common above ranges.  
  
  
It is acceptable to have a range hood and/or microwave that is either vented or non-vented. (Meaning self circulating and not vented to the outside).  
  
There is one item that is often overlooked. There must be a minimum maintained distance between the top of the range burner or elements to the bottom surface of anything over head. This includes range hoods, microwaves, cabinets or even the family canary. (sick I know....I'm off the med's hahahah) Oh, back to the distance thing. The distance is......drum roll.....18".  
  
Since there is a move to replace the BOCA code with the International Building Code you need to double check that distance. At minimum they might have changeds it to 16' but I doubt it.  
  
Does anyone know the exact code section? (a little help from my freinds....)  
  
Bob P.  

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/4 "2004-01-24T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: bhendry**  
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Hi Susan,  
  
  
You're right. We've talked to Maytag and others.   
  
To me it just seems a better design, that if there is an appliance producing products of combustion, the products should go outside.  
  
Bill Hendry  
[www.HandyHomeInspections.com](http://www.HandyHomeInspections.com)  

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/5 "2004-01-24T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: Susan**  
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Hey Bob,  
  
  
Yes, IRC 2000 Mechanical code section 1901.1  
 Clearances. Freestanding or built in ranges shall have a vertical clearance above the cooking top of not less than 30 inches to unprotected combustible material. Reduced clearances are permitted in accordance with the listing and labeling of the range hoods or appliances.  
  
Then: 1901.2 Cooking appliances.  
 Household cooking appliances shall be listed and labeled and shall be installed in accordance with the manufacturer's installation instructions. The installation shall not interfere with combustion air or accessibility for operation and servicing.  
  
Hope that is what you were looking for..  
  
Take care,  
Sue  
  
Oops ![icon\_redface.gif](upload://f7DX2EWhmUfsDapWaYT3oJHMCj1.gif) just realized you wanted the IBC..sorry!!  

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/6 "2004-01-24T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: rpalac**  
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Thank’s sue,  
  
  
I couldn't put my finger on it.  

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/7 "2004-01-25T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: jpeck**  
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Bob P.,  
  
  
It's 14" for many, per manufacturers specifications (which supersede code).  

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Jerry Peck  
South Florida

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/8 "2004-01-25T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: rpalac**  
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Thank’s Jerry,  
  
  
I didn't realize it got down to 14". So much for my chili caldron....!  
  
I know that the local municipality supercedes the government as long as it is more stringent. I didn't know that manufactures could lessen a municipality code. Is that fact, I'm not sure...  
  
Bob P.  

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/9 "2004-06-28T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: jhagarty**  
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**Post date:** [June 28, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/products-of-combustion/173012/10 "2004-06-28T00:00:00Z")

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**Originally Posted By: gbeaumont**  
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| **Joe H wrote:** |
| is there any Code that requires Exhausting Provisions to be installed? |

   
   
No, as a blanket statement code does not require it, however all codes state that appliances need to be installed within the manufacturers guidelines, therefore if a hood manufacyurer's instructions say that the hood needs to be vented than that's what should happen. and some of them do state that requirement, especially the higher end ones with hight CFM outputs.  
   
regards  
   
Gerry  

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**Originally Posted By: gbeaumont**  
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Hi to all,  
  
  
sorry joe Got it **a$%** backwards, exhaust should be there unless no listed requirement:  
  
M1502  
RANGE HOODS  
M1502.1 General.  
Range hoods shall discharge to the outdoors through a single-wall duct. The duct serving the hood shall have a smooth interior surface, shall be air tight and shall be equipped with a backdraft damper. Ducts serving range hoods shall not terminate in an attic or crawl space or areas inside the building.  
Exception: Where installed in accordance with the manufacturer's installation instructions, and where mechanical or natural ventilation is otherwise provided, listed and labeled ductless range hoods shall not be required to discharge to the outdoors.  
  
regards  
  
Gerry  

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