# Purple discoloration on bus bar

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [March 30, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070 "2017-03-30T20:05:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![sstaggs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sstaggs/32/1777_2.png) [@sstaggs](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sstaggs)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/1 "2017-03-30T20:05:43Z")

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Today’s home inspection I had some discoloration on the neutral and ground bus bar. Seems like this would be caused by heat. I searched on google and through the InterNACHI electrical class and can’t find anything. The panel was located in the garage and no chemicals were found near by. I do not own an IR camera and I only used my IR Thermometer and there was no spikes in temperature. Could this be a loose connection to the bar? My camera flash did not go off and stayed the same when I moved around.

 ![IMG_20170330_102753.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/e/7/e7938e640cb78ad587550881f0bda1b185d470f9.jpeg)

 ![IMG_20170330_102749.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/a/6/a6212d1d5068f6695ef35f539ef144044bb30c67.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/2 "2017-03-30T20:53:44Z")

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Looks OK from the photo’s since there is no other visible signs of a problem. I’ve seen something similar on GE panels where the ungrounded lug area became discolored.

The multiple neutrals under one screw is a problem though. Each neutral requires it’s own hole in the bus.

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**Author:** ![sstaggs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sstaggs/32/1777_2.png) [@sstaggs](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sstaggs)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/3 "2017-03-30T21:13:41Z")

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> [@Robert\_Meier](#):
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> Looks OK from the photo’s since there is no other visible signs of a problem. I’ve seen something similar on GE panels where the ungrounded lug area became discolored.
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> The multiple neutrals under one screw is a problem though. Each neutral requires it’s own hole in the bus.

Ok awesome, I haven’t seen that before and wanted to do some research. I am calling out the multiple neutrals on one lug.

On a similar note, should we call out the same for multiple grounds on one lug?

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**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/4 "2017-03-30T21:46:20Z")

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> [@sstaggs](#):
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> Ok awesome, I haven’t seen that before and wanted to do some research. I am calling out the multiple neutrals on one lug.
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> On a similar note, should we call out the same for multiple grounds on one lug?

Many panels will accept 2 or 3 equipment grounding conductors (EGC’s) under one screw. That information should be on the labeling within the panel.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/5/f/c/5fcf159060cb6b581d8816b386625fc435a5e26b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sstaggs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sstaggs/32/1777_2.png) [@sstaggs](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sstaggs)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/5 "2017-03-30T22:05:45Z")

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> [@Robert\_Meier](#):
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> Many panels will accept 2 or 3 equipment grounding conductors (EGC’s) under one screw. That information should be on the labeling within the panel.
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> [http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z303/starstream4627/ground-neutral-terminalbars.jpg?t=1233679569](http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z303/starstream4627/ground-neutral-terminalbars.jpg?t=1233679569)

Awesome, thank you for the input Robert!

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**Author:** ![Jim\_Port](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jim\_Port](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Jim_Port)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/6 "2017-03-30T22:50:55Z")

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Since both bars like similar I don’t think it is an issue of heating. Robert did point out the other issues.

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**Author:** ![cdeakins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cdeakins/32/438_2.png) [@cdeakins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cdeakins)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/7 "2017-04-02T05:19:05Z")

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also the white wires connected to breakers should be re-identified with red tape.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_Port](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jim\_Port](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Jim_Port)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/8 "2017-04-02T22:36:14Z")

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> [@cdeakins](#):
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> also the white wires connected to breakers should be re-identified with red tape.

The tape or marker can be any color other than green, green with a yellow stripe or grey.

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**Author:** ![cevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cevans/32/244194_2.png) [@cevans](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cevans)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/9 "2017-04-02T22:42:42Z")

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> [@Jim\_Port](#):
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> The tape or marker can be any color other than green, green with a yellow stripe or grey.

I chose white :mrgreen:

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**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/purple-discoloration-on-bus-bar/115070/10 "2017-04-02T22:54:52Z")

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[https://www.quora.com/How-do-high-temperatures-cause-the-color-of-metal-to-change](https://www.quora.com/How-do-high-temperatures-cause-the-color-of-metal-to-change)
