Originally Posted By: dbush
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Got an easy one for today.
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Got an easy one for today.
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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Are they same (sex) pieces of wood?
If so they they may be joined only in Mass. & Cal. 
Mike P.
Originally Posted By: dvalley
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Mike,
That's a knee slapper!
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Originally Posted By: dbush
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The correct answer is A. Toenailing is the “last resort” for joining wood. It provides the least amount of structural support.
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Originally Posted By: lfranklin
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What is laid-on-connections?
Never heard of that.
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Same here, and as toe nailing is still quite prevalent, I’d hardly call it a “last resort”. Your question was not specific as to vertical or horixontal and perpendicular planes of connection. Are we saying that toe nailing of studs is not all too common?
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Originally Posted By: jremas
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Joe, he was asking for the “least” of the ones listed. I think you are looking too much into it. You are answering questions that were not asked nor implied.
We all know that toe-nailing is acceptable and there are even nailing schedules to follow for toe-nailing vs joist hangers and direct nail.
Joe I would advise that you not take the NHIE because I could clearly see you sending them a 200 page written report on the problems with their exam and the multiple answers....  
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Originally Posted By: roconnor
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Although it’s not the technically correct term, a “laid-on-connection” is where you have wood siting on another piece of wood, also called a “bearing connection” …
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Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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| Are they same (sex) pieces of wood?
If so they they may be joined only in Mass. & Cal. |
mike p, now also in New York,
New Paltz Mayor did 21 yesterday
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Originally Posted By: lfranklin
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Thank you Robert.
Words in different areas mean different things
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Thanks for all the help, Jeff. I appreciate it.
Here's the question:
Which one of the following is the least desirable method of joining two pieces of wood to each other?
a. toe-nailing
66% [ 36 ]
b. using a ledger strip
1% [ 1 ]
c. using metal hangers
9% [ 5 ]
d. laid-on-connections
22% [ 12 ]
So, its obvious that some of us are not familiar with the terminology of a laid-on connection. But, as toe-nailing, ledger strips, and metal hangard are used in every framing situation we run into, wouldn't it be natural to ask if we're specifying horizontal connections. I suspect that there are are nearly twice the number of toe-nailed connection points in a home than any other. Hence, my question. Its not a bad question for these purposes. And its a good point of contention. Sorry if you dont see it that way.
BTW, are those septic riser extensions laid-on or attached by some other methodology 
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Originally Posted By: roconnor
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Actually, I wasn’t even gonna mention this, but there are actually two “correct” answers.
For studs attached to a sill plate a "toe-nailed" connection would be better than a "laid-on connection" (i.e. only bearing).
But from the various answers, it is kinda implied that the connection is for horizontal framing/joists, in which case the "laid-on" connection would be better (just the term implies one piece of wood is laid on top of another piece of wood).
Very sticky question again, but I still think the "best" answer would be "toe-nailing" is the least desirable given the information and the implication it's for joists ... 
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