Questions of the week 05/ 15/ 16

**Old time construction stuff

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Here are the questions:**
For each question only one answer will be correct.**

  1. To minimize crowning with solid wood joists**
    A. You stagger the crowns up and down?
    B. You use Prince or King joists?
    C. You put the joists crown side up?
    D. You put the joists crown side down?
    A,B,C,D ?
  2. Steel square facts**
    A. A steel square has a body, face, tongue and back?
    B. 18 is the important number for common rafter framing?
    C. 12 and 17 are the important numbers for hip rafter framing
    D. The square as we know it was invented by the Greeks?
    A,B,C,D ?

3. All these are chisel names

  1. Firmer chisel
  2. Cutler chisel
  3. Lumbar chisel
  4. Annote chisel
    A,B,C,D ?

Nice questions, Paul…




**Chuck is the first guy with the correct answers.

Congratulations Chuck.**

  1. © Joists are installed with the crown up

  2. (A) Steel square (not framing square) has a body, face, tongue and back

  3. (A) Firmer chisel used to be in every carpenters tool pouch


Congrats chuck!

And a “Steel” framing square uses the 12 and 17 numbers for hip rafter framing. Actually, there are two correct answers for #2.:cool:

Good Job

Thank you. Nice subject this week.

Please pass the award on to Brian E. Shriver or whomever he chooses.

Congrats Chuck!

And a statement made in #3:p

Framing/ steel square uses ratio of 13 and 17 for hips.

12 is for common rafters of which you have on most hip roofs.
But hey, Chuck got it.

17 is used for the hip rafter. 12 is used for everything else, including the hip jacks. What is the 13 used for?

13 is used for square buildings and octagons and is on the octagon table on the tongue.
13 is used for the hip and valley rafters.

Are we talking about the same thing? When drawing a plumb cut on a hip rafter (the ones in the corner at 45 degrees), for the top or the bird’s mouth, the square is set with number 17 on the body, and the slope number on the tongue. 12 is used instead of 17 for the hip jacks and common rafters.

The only time I recall using the number 13 for a hip roof is when the slope was 13.:cool:

Paul, I agree with Brad that #2 should be A and C respectively.

Firmer, Cutler and Lumbar are all chisels, so shouldn’t Annote chisel be the one that is not?

I fail to see where your 13 is used in framing.

Nice job Paul and appreciate your research in putting these questions together.

There will always be some discontent with the relevant questions appropriate for an inspection forum.

Nothing in the program was said to satisfy 100% of the people. There will always be some discontented individuals who will criticize your efforts.

I made up Cutler and Lumbar and Annote.

Googling those terms I find there is a Cutler company, I find no internet reference to Lumbar. As I said, I made it up.

13 is referenced in the old Audels carpentry books for square and octogon buildings and it is in the hip framing table.

My source was Audels book printed 1909.

Carpenter wages were .25 to .45 cents an hour.