Slow Drain

Originally Posted By: phinsperger
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Originally Posted By: Guest
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How tight is the house? OK, I know that concept is far fetched, but to sate my curiosity, open a window and try it this fall.


Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Possibly grease and other buildup in the sewer line from the house to the septic system connection.


During not-so-cold weather this does not impede the flow through the pipe enough for you to notice, however, as the air outside cools down (even before freezing) and the earth cools down keeping the underground pipe at a more consistent temperature than the air temperature is, not allowing the pipe to warm up as much during the day as the air does, causing the pipe to get progressively colder as the air turns colder, causing the sludge buildup to begin to solidify.

The more it solidifies the slower your drain runs.

Sounds feasible?


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Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: Guest
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Oh sure Jerry, you think that sounds more likely than my finger over the straw theory? My God you’re pompous. icon_smile.gif


Originally Posted By: rpalac
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These nmerous conditions on these different homes including this one need special attention. The cold air sound very plausible, however I elect we have a feild trip and the owner of the house feed us steak sandwiches, pizza, beer, hot wings, beer, food, beer, and by the way more beer.


That way we can give a more efficient evaluation.

Who's in?

(if the pipe is burried to the depth below the frost line it will be a constant 57 degrees. What is more confusing that supports the straw thery is that it slows as tempature drops but lifting the lid release the vacumm so to say. This has nothing to do with tempature.)

Bob P.


Originally Posted By: jpeck
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rpalac wrote:
(if the pipe is burried to the depth below the frost line ... )


Frost? What to heck is "frost"? ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif)


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Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: Guest
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My straw theory is based on the fact that the house gets closed up when it gets cold. It was really just a front to get invited to the barbeque.


Originally Posted By: rpalac
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Excuse me, you floridians you…


I guess you think its cold out when the temp is below 85!

In that case I have to completely agree that you have a vacumm block and tempature is irrelavent.

The code (depending on which) you should be less, roughly a maximum of 9 foot from a vent line.

MOVE...problem solved

Bob P.


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Robert…can we at least agree that Jerry’s pompous?


Originally Posted By: rpalac
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Now your going to get me in more trouble.


What the hell, YES!


Originally Posted By: rpalac
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Jerry, how far are you from Sarasota


I have a house there, I might be down next month.


Originally Posted By: jpeck
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rpalac wrote:
Jerry, how far are you from Sarasota
I have a house there, I might be down next month.


About 4-5 hours I'd guess.

You have TWO houses up north? ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif)


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Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: phinsperger
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Originally Posted By: rpalac
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I do get upto Canad, my sister lives in Dollard-des-armeaux near Dorval out side of Montreal.


I have a house in Sarasota, but I live in Valley Forge, Pa.

I also own 12 other homes in Philly and a couple I'm building my self. I'm into investment housing. I build , re-hab and keep

I'm looking for Sanabell e Island or other beach area that need heavy work.

Currently in North carolina on vacation looking for more property hear.

Bob P.

I got a long extention cord on my shopping cart to plug in my PC with.


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Ouch! That hurt…


Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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Grease.



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Originally Posted By: jpeck
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The answer to this will convince me.


When the cleanout cover is removed (I am assuming the cleanout for the underground sewer line), does the water run out the cleanout, or does it run down the sewer line to the septic system?

a) If it runs out onto the ground, I still go with what I said previously.

b) If it runs down the sewer line, I will go with the venting.

I had assumed a), but if it is b), I started from the wrong assumption.

Paul, where does the water go when you remove the cleanout cover?


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Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Then, in cold weather, you probably close the house up, whereas in other weather, you leave the house open. Right?


Once the house is closed up, and the furnace fires up, you are restricting air from coming into the house while trying to suck air out of the house.

IF THIS DRAIN IS THAT CRITICAL as it related to venting (from creating a vacuum in the house), I would check all gas appliances for potential backdrafting.

You could have much more than just a slow drain. And the drain won't kill you.


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Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Robert,


There are a couple of real junkers on Sanibel Island you can probably pick up for right around a million!

I'd like to test this grease theory out, but fortunately it never gets cool enough here to try it ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Paul,


Remove the wall bend and P trap, then run a snake with a cutter head (or at least one of those wound spring ends - something that can actually catch and pull stuff off the pipe walls) into the fixture drain and down the stack to the cleanout.

Betcha find some good crud in the end of the snake.


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Jerry Peck
South Florida