# SMH (shaking my head)

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [August 21, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421 "2015-08-21T20:53:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jpope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jpope/32/59425_2.png) [@jpope](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jpope)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/1 "2015-08-21T20:53:56Z")

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Equipment grounding conductor for the range hood was attached to the ungrounded conductor of the circuit :roll:

![20150821_17.JPG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/3/9/39d8015580deb9b6364ec0d9d14ba319bd7af6a1.jpeg)

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![20150821_19.JPG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/2/c/2cb16cc4ca782d03a6ddda99fdd1c7b69631fccc.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/2 "2015-08-21T22:02:23Z")

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Where did the black conductor go. I see a green and a white. 🙂

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**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/3 "2015-08-21T22:04:45Z")

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That is screwed up!

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**Author:** ![mlarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mlarson/32/89225_2.png) [@mlarson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mlarson)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/4 "2015-08-21T22:07:49Z")

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> [@jpope](#):
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> Equipment grounding conductor for the range hood was attached to the ungrounded conductor of the circuit :roll:

Jeff, I think you forgotten the concept of of an energized piece of metal making for a great smoke particle collector:p

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**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/5 "2015-08-21T22:08:57Z")

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Obviously it is not short, his ticker is picking up voltage.  
Wonder what the black wire was hooked on too? 🙂

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**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/6 "2015-08-21T22:09:47Z")

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> [@mlarson](#):
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> Jeff, I think you forgotten the concept of of an energized piece of metal making for a great smoke particle collector:p

Yep! Negative to positive induction.😃  
Really! What did they do with the other conductor…Jeff ! Tell us!

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**Author:** ![jpope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jpope/32/59425_2.png) [@jpope](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jpope)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/7 "2015-08-22T00:04:52Z")

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> [@mlarson](#):
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> Jeff, I think you forgotten the concept of of an energized piece of metal making for a great smoke particle collector:p

I hadn’t considered that 😃

> [@mcyr](#):
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> Where did the black conductor go. I see a green and a white. 🙂

Black from circuit is connected to green, white from circuit is connected to white w/black stripe. I didn’t look to find where the other conductors from the appliance were.

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**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/8 "2015-08-22T01:15:47Z")

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But does the range hood work ? 🙂

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**Author:** ![sstanczyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sstanczyk/32/175851_2.png) [@sstanczyk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sstanczyk)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/9 "2015-08-22T02:59:34Z")

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> [@belliott](#):
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> But does the range hood work ? 🙂

Jeff will let us know when he can let go of the switch… :shock:

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**Author:** ![cbottger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cbottger/32/206_2.png) [@cbottger](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cbottger)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/10 "2015-08-22T03:54:07Z")

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Aw the guy was just color blind or he was using brail to connect the wires;-)

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**Author:** ![wwilson3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wwilson3/32/58197_2.png) [@wwilson3](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wwilson3)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/11 "2015-08-22T11:25:41Z")

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Early morning wake up device , you guys need to update yourselves .lol

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**Author:** ![mlarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mlarson/32/89225_2.png) [@mlarson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mlarson)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/12 "2015-08-22T12:56:13Z")

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> [@cbottger](#):
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> Aw the guy was just color blind or he was using brail to connect the wires;-)

A friend of a friend is a blind electrician. Believe it or not.

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**Author:** ![jpope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jpope/32/59425_2.png) [@jpope](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jpope)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/13 "2015-08-22T13:34:28Z")

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Yes, the hood worked. Other than the electrical connection, it was a good installation 🙂

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**Author:** ![dandersen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dandersen/32/59398_2.png) [@dandersen](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dandersen)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/14 "2015-08-22T16:07:09Z")

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Guess they cut the ground wire to keep it from tripping the breaker!?

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**Author:** ![jpope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jpope/32/59425_2.png) [@jpope](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jpope)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/15 "2015-08-22T18:54:02Z")

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I think the installer must have been an auto mechanic, where black goes to ground 😃

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**Author:** ![Jim\_Port](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jim\_Port](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Jim_Port)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/16 "2015-08-22T20:25:23Z")

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> [@jpope](#):
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> Yes, the hood worked. Other than the electrical connection, it was a good installation 🙂

The hot went to the egc, and the neutral went to neutral. How was the motor or light getting energized?

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**Author:** ![jmckee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jmckee/32/211009_2.png) [@jmckee](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jmckee)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/17 "2015-08-22T22:53:49Z")

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don’t lick that hood…

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**Author:** ![jpope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jpope/32/59425_2.png) [@jpope](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jpope)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/18 "2015-08-23T13:41:31Z")

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> [@Jim\_Port](#):
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> The hot went to the egc, and the neutral went to neutral. How was the motor or light getting energized?

Good question, but to be honest, I didn’t look any further into it.

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**Author:** ![ajohnson11](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ajohnson11/32/57038_2.png) [@ajohnson11](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ajohnson11)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/19 "2015-08-23T15:49:18Z")

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> [@jpope](#):
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> I think the installer must have been an auto mechanic, where black goes to ground 😃

Ahh, great hunch. I couldn’t think of one…

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**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/smh-shaking-my-head/99421/20 "2015-08-23T16:53:11Z")

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If the unit worked then the green conductor must have connected to the hot conductor on the unit.

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