If I’m looking at the pic correctly… Joe is right, the framing methods are incorrect, the 2X is now carrying a load where a girder/beam would typically be in place… this is not conventional. I looked at that pic, just seems bizarre that someone would break a span with that lumber… the stick some 2x4’s to pick up the load… am I missing something? As far as that goes… I can’t imagine a 2X being approved to carry any type load in that fashion… In areas where even a small snow load and dead load would take place… a 4x4 wouldn’t even have made it 4 feet in most areas.
As far as the fix, it depends on the load path under that intersecting 2X… is there a foundation plumb/vertical below that intersection that a wall could be built from?
Is that a triple 2x__ beam in picture 2 that appears to run under the single 2x__ and 2x4 supports and sit on the exterior wall? The edge of it can be seen partly protruding from under the osb/plywood in picture 3, too. Cannot tell from here, exactly, what it is or what supports it.
It was servicable and stable, but unusual at best. I did walk on this part of the roof as well and it seemed to be fine.
With that said I also documented such said the framing was unconventional, explained why and recommended they have it futher evaluated by someone other than myself if they felt like it was a concern.
It was documented and beyond that its not my deal anymore. Snow loads are not a major concern here.
That’s what you said? Have it evaluated by “someone other than myself”? How bold.
They hired you for a professional opinion and you deferred to THEIR opinion and told them to have an ambiguous further evaluation if THEY were concerned? Shocking statement from someone as long as you’ve been in business.
From the limited pictures, cutting the rafters in half reduced their mid-span bending capacity to zero. Now you have two separate rafters butting up to what is equivalent to a ledger board at mid-span. Now the geometry requires the ledger board to to act as a beam and needs vertical supports. The 2x4 vertical supports in the picture appear to be undersized for typical dead loads and live loads carried by that roof. You would have to follow the load path to find out what is supporting the 2x4 and so on down to the foundation. As mentioned by others there should also be some metal hanger brackets as well. Without being there that’s about the best I can give you.
I would think with your sucess rate in business you would be one of the last ones I would want to take advice from. Sorry Joe.
You know it just kills me. I notice it, even though it was build, passed in some manner by the AHJ and has been there for several years. But I am supposed to go running around screaming the sky is falling.
I did my job. It was noted and it advises them to let a specialist review the function of the roof system.
I removed most of my scalding reply about how you handled the issue, Sean, out of professional courtesy after some consideration.
However, I would be happy to compare number of inspections, total income, benefits, and total assets to you. You, Mr. Failed Realtor and part time Handyman, don’t have a clue whether or not I’m “successful”.
P.S.S. Maybe your client will read this thread…ever think of that?
I have a guess since I’ve performed funky construction jobs similar to this for decades. I say those rafters look like they could be 10-12 feet long…they fit into a pickup…builder might have said 20 foot continuous rafter would be nice but how do I get it home. So the crafty DIYer came up with this solution. If I cobbled together a project like this I would have used hangers and had more supports…one under each rafter…providing there was a wall or other means of solid support under thoses, I would deem this a workable setup. And my three stooges jobs over 30 years, though sometimes goofy looking, have always endured. This is just a subjective guess
mike in mn
