Split strands

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Bob


My pet peeve. "With the strands split there is also a violation of 310.4, conductors in parallel."

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: Harold Endean
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Just to add my 2 cents in here, I believe that some ( maybe not many) circuit breakers are UL listed for 2 wires under 1 terminal. This would apply to the circuit breakers in the panel, and you are allowed two grounding wires under one terminal on the neutral/ground bar strip.


You are only allowed one neutral per terminal however.


Harold


Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Just to put another twist on those separated strands, they look almost like they were separate grounds, twisted together for routing around in the panel, then separated to separate terminals.


If that is the case, then there is the problem of having more than two grounds in the same terminal, not withstanding the other problems.

I am thinking they look twisted together because the strands look too large for that small size of a stranded wire.


--
Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Received from Todd Allen, White Glove Home Inspections


Quote:
whtglvinsp@cox.net
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 03:14:55
To:joetedesco@tmo.blackberry.net
Subject: double tap

Hello jtedesco,


A breaker in the main panel is serving two circuits, which could overload the
circuit, and there is no room within the panel to add additional breakers. This
condition should be evaluated by a licensed electrician.


Joe,

If you want canned responses get the demo versions of 3-D and Inspectvue


Thanks Todd, I will take a look if I can find the link. The checklist approach is one that seems to work for many inspectors. I have many of them and continue to add more items that may need to be inspected.


--
Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

www.nachi.org/tedescobook.htm

Originally Posted By: ecrofutt
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Inspectvue from Porter Valley Software


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Erby Crofutt
B4U Close Home Inspections
Georgetown, Kentucky

www.b4uclose.com

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Thank you Erby, I am downloading some demos now!


If I could get a complete list of circuit breakers that are found by HI's, I will research the listings to see if I can find the product identification for them. I would also appreciate information on ranges of dates for homes, such as 1900-1950, 60, 70, 80, 90, etc. that most HI's see.

I know that some have pointed out even older homes!

1. Zinsco ![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif)
2. FPE
3. Bryant
4. GE
5. Cutler Hammer
6. Sylvania
7. Wadsworth
8. Eaton
9.


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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

www.nachi.org/tedescobook.htm

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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How does this go with the original post?


"Anyone ever see someone split the strands of a ground wire to make them fit in a busbar?"

Are we digressing again?

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Mike Parks wrote:
Are we digressing again?

Mike P.


Mike,

It's the Internet.

It always happens, and many times it leads to good info, too.


--
Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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“It always happens, and many times it leads to good info, too.”


Again Mr. Peck is correct. ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)

Mike P.