I could point out the error of their ways. I can even show them the concern. I also believe ESA has a method to provide input from in the field experiences in order to change the code provisions.
In my opinion just because they are AHJ does not always mean they are right. But I don’t know whether its worth my effort. I shouldn’t have to be pointing out serious concerns to a code authority.
I understand that Raymond but they have the final say in any case. Perhaps they will see th error of there ways but in the mean time it can make an HI look foolish for bucking their authority. JMHO
However, when ever I ‘question’ the thinking process of any AHJ, I am given the act article/code that says ‘he/she is always right’. The name alone, AHJ, means I have to smile and say, “it’ll get done that way.”
tom
P.S. back to the original photo, geezzz… I bet the freaking breaker has a photo/image embedded on the breaker to show HOW to properly double tap. The one I’m holding has one on the right side of the breaker. Boobs.
The problem I have as in inspector is I can only enforct the label instructions and there is nothing that says both wires on a QO have to be the same size or even the same material. The old ones just say “1-2 wires #8-#14 CU/AL”. I don’t have a new one with the instructions molded in the side but you can’t see that when they are installed anyway.
In my opinion, I don’t worry about codes or what the local AHJ says. If I believe there is a safety concern I will report it as such. A good example, locally the requirement for automatic closers for garage/house doors was dropped from the code. I still report this as a safety hazard.
Many manufactures rely on the fact if they don’t give instructions how to do ‘mixed’ sizes, then the one conductor per terminal screw applies. This is why I see many times in Square-D products, torque settings for pairs of the same size wires.
I didn’t mean to imply anything about the instructor, he was very knowledgeable and provided a lot of info. He wasn’t aware of the Sq D breakers. I did, as I encountered this on an inspection and talked to one of my electricians about it.
Ahh…no problem as I was saying not to discredit the instructor but to imply things are always changing and staying current with changes is always a weakness for those who are not in the actual field on a regular basis.
Yes, this is true but it’s also true that’s a Sq D QO CB can have two conductors in any size from #14 to #10. They are not required to be the same size.