Tea Party, which didn't even exist 2 years ago, now strongest force in US politics

As socialist promise to help the common man. The problem with socialism
is that sooner or later they run out of other peoples money.

I hope you enjoy have governor moonbean in the chair.:shock:

Jerry Brown Lies

What ?

Good luck with that, my friend…
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“…The election centered on who was best qualified to impose further austerity measures.
Both candidates, backed to the hilt by corporate money,**
agreed that the cost of the economic crisis must be imposed on the working class.**”

http://www.uncoverage.net/2010/08/the-california-debt-clock-see-it-here-live/

New Sarah Palin Tea Party Ad

yawn…

Yep, George Bush sure screwed us over!

Clinton had higher taxes but a booming economy and balanced the budget. Can you Republicans ever balance the budget and have a booming economy?

It boils down simply to this…a bunch of guys who seek power so that they can have fun spending other people’s money which is why, no matter what name they put in front of it, they still call it a “party”.

At one party, the revelers want to help rich people get richer…so that they can hire more poor and middle class to help them get richer. They got the idea around the time of Barry Goldwater’s candidacy that by pretending to embrace conservative values and acting “christian”, they could convince some of those they exploited to join them in their quest for more gold.

At another party, the rich come second to the basic value and dignity of all human beings. They value higher education and thinking, not necessarily for the development of “working skills” but for a broader and more intelligent world view. They embrace new things and new ideas and strive to make life an experience as opposed to a “career”. Yet, as the other party had to reluctantly pretend to embrace religious values, this party had to incorporate those who expressed their freedoms and world views by doing socially disagreeable things such as homosexuality and abortion.

Now, in the third party room, we have people who have left the other two party rooms who value nothing but themselves. They strive not to help the rich get richer or to advance the dignity of the individual. They simply want to withdraw and be left alone by everyone. They reflect upon a time that they only know about from the short articles they are able to read (since so few of them actually read “books”) and think that they would be better off for their country to return to an agricultural state at a time where men owned other men and deprived others who did not own their property the right to vote. They value the judgment of their founders while rejecting any improvements made by others over the last two centuries to the mistakes the founders made. They reject the idea that the founders made mistakes, totally discounting a four year period in which the country had to fight a civil war to correct a few of their omissions. They desperately want to use the “N” word (because their founders did, of course) in their hate for the new president, but instead tend to project their prejudices into internet “jokes” and a quest for a Kenyan birth certificate.

Frankly, there is something to be found good…and terribly disgusting…in each of three party rooms. It’s all a matter of taste and choice.

Why argue about it? Chances are, if one actually lives a full life, there is something for him in every room.

So…“party on”, dudes. Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.

Yep, and Obama has only managed to make it worse.

Lucky us.

Of course you have no proof that Gore or Kerry would have done any better.

They wanted to spend even more and pass even higher taxes.

So if the only way you can get through the is pretend that all would be well had GW not been in office, keep it up.

Until we all admit that we have an overspending problem that both parties participated in, it will not get better.

We are out of money.

great post, James… "“cent’anni” “salute”\:D/ :nachi:

Rosy scenario clap trap.

The nations debt never went down.

Yes the annual deficit was reduced but we still spent more than we took in.

Clinton benefited greatly from the legacy of capital gains tax rate reductions in the Reagan years and tax cuts during his terms.

The massive Internet bubble which later burst also resulted in massive tax receipts during those years even with the lower capital gains taxes.

Some reading for your consideration.

I am sure there are some in the tea party that express these views but their number is limited.

For the most part they want to return to fiscal sanity and freedom from intrusive and ever expanding government.

We cannot keep spending beyond our means using borrowed money while increasing the size and scope of government in our everyday lives.

If anyone thinks we can they need to consider if they are holding a firm grip on reality

I love this analysis…Im a Blackamerican 46 yrs old and I think you called
correctly.

David

I think Jim’s analysis is incorrect, especially associating the Tea Party with slavery and the “N” word. Taxes on income (the U.S. taxes income not wealth) are today’s whips used to maintain economic slavery. The Tea Party seeks to reduce taxes.

Educated Democrats publicly affirming for racists that blacks are inferior to whites by supporting laws that don’t require from a black man that which is required of a white man (affirmative action)… is way worse than some hillbilly using the “N” word IMHO.

Here is the correct analysis (in general):

Republicans want less taxes and say they want less spending, but can’t stop.
Democrats want more taxes and spending.
Tea Party wants less taxes and spending.

The only real connection to race here is that taxing and spending disproportionally harms blacks more than whites.

Business 101 my azz. Your living in a fantasy world if you think cutting taxes on the rich will spur employment.

Reality 101 - You can cut Warren Buffetts or Bill Gates taxes down to zero & they won’t hire any one unless there is a demand for the product they are producing. I am all for cutting taxes & don’t like paying them any more than anyone else. But we must get our financial house straightened out & feel the pain before that can happen.

The reason Tea party has become a viable factor, if you want to call it that, is because they shout the loudest. On the other hand if it wasn’t for the Tea Party the Republicans would have IMO also won back a majority in the Senate. The Tea Party as a whole is a splintered group of people with many different ideas on how the Government should be run, too many different ideas. The real test will come in January when the debt ceiling will have to be raised. Some that consider themselves Tea Partiers are for it, some not. January is when the rubber hits the road and when we shall see how big of teeth of the Tea Party really has.

If the debt ceiling is not raised, you all need to consider what happens next.

IMHO it’s little more than a red herring being used against. Republican controlled House.

Face it, there will be no easy fixes.

While I respect your opinion, I agree to disagree. Your abbreviated assessment is a bit too general and leaves much out.

For instance here is but one very small example of many. Those with more than one active brain cell have been quietly amused watching those that call themselves the “tea party” waiving flags and their poorly spelled signs while encouraging and praising two wars (and wanting to expand it into a religious war against ALL of the Muslims of the world) while reducing taxes…much of which is going toward their unemployment checks, social security, and welfare payments they used to travel to Washington. While this does not, of course, represent the ENTIRE group (for nothing really does in any party), it is NOT the higher educated and higher paid people of America who dominate that party, but the opposite. Most people with just an average ability to think - will never be impressed by someone living in Alaska, because it is closer to Russia, as qualifying that experience as a credential for the Presidency. Those who are able to be led by someone of that caliber are hardly fit to lead anyone of any average abilities, or above. You have to agree with that, Nick.

America’s lowest common denominator now has their own “party”. The dumbing down of America has now reached the national level on the political spectrum.

I’m not saying this just to be “mean” (I save that for the NFE forum), but it is not only MY opinion that I am sharing here. Undoubtedly, several folks that I have on “ignore” will soon be following up my posts with the usual babble…but the more you expand upon the abbreviated statements you made, the more of these types of contradictions you will be forced to either ignore or tap dance through. They are as legitimate as any opinion that has been or will be voiced against them.

You poke fun at their misspelled signs and poor education, but fail to mention that they are denied school choice by the Department of Education which took their money at gunpoint, and then rather giving it back to poor children in form of a voucher so that they can get a great education like Obama’s kids do… the Department of Education instead gave it to a government run monopoly which keeps poor children uneducated.

You poke fun at them voluntarily spending their unemployment and social security checks to travel to Washington to help create change, but fail to mention that they were forced at gunpoint to buy those horrible government insurance policies. Their unemployment and social security checks are the piddly returns they received on the premiums taken from them.

Are we to expect NACHI to soon become a militia?:wink:

Do they really expect to fight MORE wars with their lowered taxes?

Tell me, how much money do these unemployed people who are arguing to lower taxes for those making more than $250,000.00 pay to the federal government, anyway? Is this another “Please give my boss a raise so that he will give me back my minimum wage job?”

As to education, the majority of public schools are paid from the property taxes of those living in the school districts, in my state. The better the neighborhood…the better the school, except of course for those poorer kids you were talking about. I am not against your rather socialistic view of taking tax dollars and sending them to the better schools…but tea party people would “beet” you to death with their “sines” for saying that. LOL