The PLEDGE Gains Traction!

[ccurrins (Christopher Currins, CMI)]

@nthornberry

Now we have inspectors Pledging to insult agents…I’m lost.

Where is this taking place, inspectors Pledging to insult agents?

[jkeilson (James Keilson, CMI, Certified Master Inspector)]

@ccurrins

Where is this taking place, inspectors Pledging to insult agents?

Only in his mind,…:shock: It has never happened, just another spin/twist of words…Lie by Nathan.

Jim

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

Nick
Rewrite the " My Promise To You" to reflect the concerns of client privacy .
Then I’ll post that on my site.
The rest I’ve see makes us all look bad like some sort of con-men ready to sell the clients souls for a buck.
I won’t post anything of the sort. Nope !

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@rlewis5

Nick
Rewrite the " My Promise To You" to reflect the concerns of client privacy .
Then I’ll post that on my site.
The rest I’ve see makes us all look bad like some sort of con-men ready to sell the clients souls for a buck.
I won’t post anything of the sort. Nope !

Won’t happen. Nick is in bed with Nate. Watch

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

Mike
Would you agree that it would address the issues without all this crap ?

[evandeven (Eric Van De Ven, CMI)]

@nthornberry

Perfect! You can do your own pledge as well Roy. It works just fine! Feel free to swipe and deploy any of my concepts on this.

And I would suggest everyone do your own pledge.
We are talking about clients information. Stick to that.

Feel free to copy what is in my signature line. As I said, if you want to pledge not to give out your clients information, just do it.

If you really want to get carried away, put a page on your website listing all of your pledges…

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@rlewis5

Mike
Would you agree that it would address the issues without all this crap ?

You are missing the point of the pledge and why it has become needed.

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

I guess!

[jkeilson (James Keilson, CMI, Certified Master Inspector)]

@nthornberry

I will answer your questions! Of course there are shady agents, of course there are those that aren’t deserving of much, but it is not our place to insult the agents, especially to their clients. If their clients take issue with them, they’ll play it out. I don’t see why you feel we should openly insult agents.

That’s not how I do business, I wouldn’t appreciate that kind of treatment regardless of what you think of me, and I expect the same of inspectors I work with.

Congrats !!! a respectable answer to legit questions.

Just need to add nobody ever said it was ok to insult agents or anyone for that matter openly in the inspection process.

Off to a mold inspection, everyone be safe and make money. I will return in a few.

Jim

[mauger (Mike Auger, CMI - RI 43685, RMC-142, RMB-096)]

@jkeilson

I will answer your question even though you didn’t answer mine and just put the spin on as usual.

My answer to your question is No, I would not. As an Inspector I have met many agents, Many are A+ and I work with them daily and have great relationships and respect for each other. Also I have met and dealt with many agents that are not worth the dirt they stand on and are as crooked as a 3 dollar bill. But you may not know this as you are not an Inspector and may not have ever experienced the agent that wants soft reports and cheap prices and fast quickie inspections, all so they can race to the closing table.

There you go Nate, I answered truthfully, Now its your turn.

**Are all agents worthy of that respect?

Are they all above board?

Aren’t there any that are shady?
**

Jim

Jim,
not to add kerosine to the tinder pile, but even if an agent is a total ***, I generally don’t insult them, I just go about my business as a professional. I also don’t go trashing him behind his back either. I DO keep a mental note though.

[ccurrins (Christopher Currins, CMI)]

@mauger

Jim,
not to add kerosine to the tinder pile, but even if an agent is a total , I generally don’t insult them, I just go about my business as a professional. I also don’t go trashing him behind his back eithe*r. I DO keep a mental note though.

Neither do I and I doubt 99% of respectable home inspectors do either.

Which is why I can not understand why Nate would include such verbiage in his pledge, unless he knows a lot of shady inspectors.

[kleonard (Kevin Leonard, CPI/CMI)]

FROM NATHANS PLEDGE:

I realize my position in the real estate transaction is to report on defects- not to scare client. I pledge not to use alarmist tactics, and to do my best in ensuring that I obtain the buyer’s permission (where applicable), to get documentation to any and all interested parties including the agent who represents them so well. I realize that creating unnecessary friction in a real estate transaction is a disservice to the clients I share with the real estate agents who represent them, and I promise not to diminish, degrade, or make any derogatory comments about an agent to their client, whether that client was referred to me by the agent or not.

I’ll tell you what Nathan, only after you get Realtor’s to sign a pledge to do only what’s in their Clients best interest through out the RE transaction & include in that pledge that they will NOT refer any Home Inspectors, let alone soft writing Inspectors, that the Client should do their own research & choose their own inspector, would I even begin to consider signing your pledge to kiss the a s s of any Realtor. Hell I hear Realtors slamming other Realtors all the time as it is, I can only imagine what some of them are saying about me behind my back.

Of course for me, I would consider that a badge of honor.

Just like some Home Inspectors, some Realtors SUCK, but on the flip side, many are great & really care about their Clients.

[kleonard (Kevin Leonard, CPI/CMI)]

@nthornberry

Have you read the Realtor Code of Ethics? All of that except the referral part is in there, and I don’t think you’ll find one that wouldn’t say they operate that way, and wouldn’t be willing to make such a pledge.

Would you like me to put together an agent pledge? I can get a few thousand of those done overnight!

The referral part is the most important part.

It’s an obvious conflict of interest for any Realtor to refer a Home Inspector.

[mauger (Mike Auger, CMI - RI 43685, RMC-142, RMB-096)]

I Pledge my furniture and woodwork in my home when it gets dusty to restore the shine of the wood. I typically use lemon scented Pledge. I pledge to use Pledge on all surfaces that Pledge can restore or clean as long as I see fit.

(perhaps Johnson and Johnson will give me an endorsement deal if I continue to drop their product name in)

[kleonard (Kevin Leonard, CPI/CMI)]

@nthornberry

That’s a debatable point actually. Most agents would say that they’d be derelict in their duty to not suggest a good inspector that they have experience with.

I personally wouldn’t every recommend an agent who doesn’t know exactly which inspector is the best in town, and vehemently refers them on every transaction.

The “obvious” conflict would be if the inspector paid that agent. That would be a violation of the Code of Ethics for both the agent and inspector.

Thanks for making my point.

Does the Agent get paid every time they are involved with the sale of RE?
Does the sale of RE depend on the findings of the Home Inspector?
Do some Inspectors rely solely on referrals from RE Agents to stay in business?

C’mon now Nathan, it doesn’t take a Brain Surgeon to see the conflict here.

As I stated before, just like some Home Inspectors, some Realtors SUCK, but on the flip side, many are great & really care about their Clients.

[kleonard (Kevin Leonard, CPI/CMI)]

@nthornberry

That’s a debatable point actually. Most agents would say that they’d be derelict in their duty to not suggest a good inspector that they have experience with.

I personally wouldn’t every recommend an agent who doesn’t know exactly which inspector is the best in town, and vehemently refers them on every transaction.

The “obvious” conflict would be if the inspector paid that agent. That would be a violation of the Code of Ethics for both the agent and inspector.

On another Note, I recently had a RE Agent from a rather large RE office here locally tell me they are no longer permitted to refer Home Inspectors, because they consider it a conflict of interest.