Posted: 05 Apr 2007 09:29 AM
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Seth,
I’m not worried about ASHI’s finances or leadership, but I am worried about the
effect incompetent inspectors have on the reputations of all home inspectors.
Can you find any fault with the deck photos I posted? I mean, you are an
inspector, aren’t you?
Sideshow Bob
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 09:33 AM
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Seth Hegert
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Bob,
Let me know where the photos are so I can help you become a better Home
Inspector, if you are asking for help on a deck I am sure you need help on a lot
of a other aspects of an inspection, but I will wait to determine that after
seeing the pics, if there is anything else you need help on let me know I would
be glad to help.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 09:50 AM
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They’re scattered throughout the other thread that is active this morning.
You’ve visited here a couple of times already this morning, didn’t you read
anything other than your own posts?
You’re not really a home inspector, are you?
Sideshow Bob
>Bob,
>Let me know where the photos are so I can help you become a
>better Home Inspector, if you are asking for help on a deck
>I am sure you need help on a lot of a other aspects of an
>inspection, but I will wait to determine that after seeing
>the pics, if there is anything else you need help on let me
>know I would be glad to help.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 10:06 AM
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Seth Hegert
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Bob,
Found your post and responded, on the decks. Yes I am a real life Home
Inspector, although I would love to chit chat all day with you I have 2
inspections today, so I must go. And I should not have to prove myself to you
as you are a nobody to me as I am to you.
I posted this because I am concerned about the future and finacial position of
ASHI, and believe that all ASHI members should be to. If this information is
readily available to all ASHI members we should all know whats going on when it
happens, not after the fact, or when it is to late. If the board really wanted
us all to know about this, they would have told us, appears they did not in this
case.
I can guarantee you that we won’t see this in the ASHI reporter.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 10:25 AM
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John Ghent
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“Here is the proof, Don’t ask how I came by this, but if you want a hard copy on
ASHI letterhead I have it.”
Seth, as an ASHI member all you would need to do to get a copy of that letter is
to call headquarters and ask for it. It is no big secret. It is a fact that new
membership is down and this is probably due to the poor housing market. As an
ASHI member it is in your best interest to put forth a positive image of the
society. The letter indicates that the Board of Directors and our Treasurer had
to make some hard choices this year due to lower revenues. So What! That is what
they should do when things are tight. That is good fiscal management.
You seem to act like a vulture sitting on a tree branch waiting for our demise.
If our fiscal discipline bothers you then you have choices on where else to
spend your dues money. In the mean time, we have been around for a long time and
will continue to be here for many years to come. (in spite of guys like you)
In the future, if you ever need to “get stuff” without telling us where you got
it, just call one of the board members, ASHI Headquarters, one of the chapter
presidents, or one of the past presidents, and they will be happy to get you a
copy. With or without the ASHI Letterhead.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 09:52 AM
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Seth, you just need to say that you got this from the NACHI site.
This is off of your website:
About Seth Hegert
Licensing of home inspectors only sets a minimum standard. Much like being up to
code, any less would be illegal. That’s why I have worked to become a member of
the National Association of Certified Home Inspectors (NACHI). As a NACHI
member,
Nothing wrong with belonging to other organizations, this is called freedom of
choice. Just don’t get caught up in the anti-ASHI hype on the NACHI board. If
you think about it, you don’t see any of the other organizations spewing false
and misleading information about other home inspector organizations. This type
of rhetoric only comes from the NACHI board and is supported by the 10 or so
NACHI members who are regular posters.
As for them entering the ASHI board, we can do the same to the private side of
the NACHI board through a similar software glitch and the numerous free
memberships that Nick has given out. The difference is that we don’t gloat
about it or use it to defame their organization.
Scott Patterson
Spring Hill, TN (Nashville)
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 10:25 AM
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Seth Hegert
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Your right I did get this from the NACHI page although it really doesn’t matter,
does it. It does not change my concern for ASHI.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 10:31 AM
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>Your right I did get this from the NACHI page although it
>really doesn’t matter, does it. It does not change my
>concern for ASHI.
Pardon me for saying so, but an HI needs to learn to read, write and reason
before he foists himself off on the naive homebuyers as a competent
professional. Considering the quality of your communication so far, with the
numerous misspellings of simple everyday words, and the logical breakdowns that
flow through your writing, I’d say that you’re neither qualified to offer an
opinion on a house, nor on ASHI management.
Maybe taking the NACHI joke test – again – would help.
No, wait… it’s designed by and for incompentents. Never mind…
WJ
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 11:43 AM
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>Seth, you just need to say that you got this from the NACHI
>site.
>This is off of your website:
>About Seth Hegert
>Licensing of home inspectors only sets a minimum standard.
>Much like being up to code, any less would be illegal.
>That’s why I have worked to become a member of the National
>Association of Certified Home Inspectors (NACHI). As a NACHI
>member,
Fitting, isn’t it, that the above is utter nonsense. “Much like being up to
code, any less would be illegal,” is a blindingly obvious non-sequitur, sure to
draw laughs and derision from anybody who would know the difference between
legal and illegal. An alert sixth-grader would put a red line through the whole
mess.
And best I know, there’s no work involved in becoming a NACHI member. My Basset
hound Rufus could be a Master Inspector by dawn.
WJ
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 11:49 AM
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Seth,
Can you point to the text in the letter about the NHIE? Truth is we are
receiving payments on schedule from the NHIE and they are in fact doing very
well, contrary to the rumors being generated and published in your NACHI forum.
Yes, some cuts had to be made to travel budgets and some programs have been
scaled back and/or delayed until the next fiscal year but even in this downturn
in the housing market, ASHI is still funding our reserve account. You will see
little in the way of real impacts to the member benefits.
Of course you won’t hear anything about the cash flow within NACHI because that
is all part of the owner’s private bank account. Why don’t you ask if Nick will
open his accounts to a public audit? See what kind of answer you get. We do it
every year because ASHI is accountable to the membership who in fact own this
professional society.
Bill Loden, Director
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 12:18 PM
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>>If you think about it, you don’t see any of the other organizations spewing
false and misleading information about other home inspector organizations. This
type of rhetoric only comes from the NACHI board and is supported by the 10 or
so NACHI members who are regular posters.
It is a bit unclear to whom you refer with the term “other organizations”
followed by a reference to the NACHI “board”, but there certainly is an element
of criticism of NACHI posted here by ASHI members
FWIW, when NACHI appeared on the scene, I considered it worse than a joke, and
believe it owes its existence to a degree to an act of fraud through certain
knowingly inaccurate statements made by a certain Massachusetts inspector.
My then 13 daughter, with NO construction knowledge, missed passing its initial
on-line test by 1 question, and if she had been the slightest bit interested in
taking the test, I believe she would have easily passed.
I have not followed NACHI’s status since, and have no comment regarding its
current credibility.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 02:09 PM
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Seth - Read the “red” stuff again:
ASHI is facing a significant budget shortfall this year, which is causing the
Board of Directors to make some serious and unpopular decisions to reduce costs.
Seems to me this is a normal business move. They created a budget, but the
income is not sufficiant to operate within that budget. Heck - the same thing
happened to me. I projected my '07 income and expense back in December, banking
on a continued increase percentage calculated over the last three years. Hasn’t
worked so far - income is down. So I made a decision that was VERY unpopular. I
decided not to pay myself as much as was budgeted.
In a financial crises, and facing my own demise?? Nope - not a chance. Not when
you operate with good business practices.
Ken in MN
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 12:01 PM
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Ken hit the nail on the head. A budget was created. A budget is a projection
of expense for the upcoming period of time. If the budget is screwed up due to
whatever reasons, then it needs to be corrected. It is not rocket science, it
is common business practice.
With my involvement in ASHI, I have known about the budget issues and that they
were corrected with a revised budget for a good while. The membership has not
seen any apparent changes in the way ASHI does business or promotes its members
and this is the way it should be.
If the corrections were not made and the old budget was not adjusted the impact
would have been seen next year and it would have been apparent that ASHI had a
budget deficit and did not address it. Then we would have had a problem!
Scott Patterson
Spring Hill, TN (Nashville)
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 12:18 PM
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I’m as active a critic as anyone in ASHI, but mgt. has been satisfactory for the
last several months, the Board is undertaking intelligent & forward thinking
changes, and this current board & officer group is probably the finest I’ve
seen in ASHI in over 15 years.
Is it just me, or is anyone else really bored by the NACHI stuff? I propose
folks that want to talk about NACHI go over to NACHI, and folks that want to
talk about the things that we should do to advance the profession, talk about
those things. Elevate the discourse, etc., etc…
Or, I might unilaterally delete NACHI threads; any objections if I do that?
Kurt Mitenbuler
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Posted: 05 Apr 2007 12:59 PM
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I would not delete the truth as it is often hidden until it is pointed out.
Scott Patterson
Spring Hill, TN (Nashville)
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 01:08 PM
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>I would not delete the truth as it is often hidden until it
>is pointed out.Scott PattersonSpring Hill, TN (Nashville)
Point taken.
Kurt Mitenbuler
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Posted: 05 Apr 2007 02:27 PM
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>>Is ASHI in real need of financial help. I have read some posting and am
waiting to hear about the need to send more $$ to ASHI to keep us from drowning.
I am to believe that it is all tied into the NHIE and ASHI and poor money
management.
Seth: may I suggest that you work to improve your communication skills.
If that message is representative of your report writing, I believe that you are
exposing yourself to significant liability.
Under basic legal principles, should your writing ever be tested in court, the
court will interpret it in the light most favorable to your client and against
you.
In other words, you’re leaving the backside of your lap hanging in the breeze.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 02:14 PM
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>>>Is ASHI in real need of financial help. I have read some posting and am
waiting to hear about the need to send more $$ to ASHI to keep us from drowning.
I am to believe that it is all tied into the NHIE and ASHI and poor money
management.
>
>Seth: may I suggest that you work to improve your
>communication skills.
>
>If that message is representative of your report writing, I
>believe that you are exposing yourself to significant
>liability.
>
>Under basic legal principles, should your writing ever be
>tested in court, the court will interpret it in the light
>most favorable to your client and against you.
>
>In other words, you’re leaving the backside of your lap
>hanging in the breeze.
I agree whole-heartedly with Bob Walker. Start the ice machines in Hell.
WJ
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 02:30 PM
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This gentleman (Mr. Seth) is an avid NACHI member according to his website. He
is also an ASHI Candidate/Associate. Go figure!
Posted: 05 Apr 2007 04:09 PM
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>This gentleman (Mr. Seth) is an avid NACHI member according
>to his website. He is also an ASHI Candidate/Associate. Go
>figure!
Funny he’d accept the associate/candidate role since he’s one of the world’s
elite inspectors.
We need harder tests. Bad.
I hear banjos,
WJ
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 06:56 AM
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Is there any sort of time limit for being an ASHI candidate/associate?
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 07:30 AM
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>Is there any sort of time limit for being an ASHI
>candidate/associate?
>
Yes, when your bank account runs out. Otherwise, it appears one can be an
“Associate” forever.
I think that’s this “elite” home inspectors strategy. Join NACHI, which has the
same requirements for membership as purchasing a bus pass, and then become an
ASHI Associate which is also a pretty low threshold. He probably has no
intention of ever becoming a member. He just wants to claim he’s in both
organizations. We really should have a time limit on how long one can do this. I
doubt that there is the political will within ASHI to do anything about it,
given our current membership decline.
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 08:19 AM
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Let’s stop capitalizing ‘nachi’, and its leader’s name. For some reason this
bugs me.
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 09:00 AM
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I’m afraid not to or Walter will think I didn’t pass 5th grade English.
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 09:05 AM
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>I’m afraid not to or Walter will think I didn’t pass
>5th grade English.
You may get a pass grade on this one… I think I have for the past three or so
years. 
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 09:14 AM
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Shame; this whole thread.
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 09:19 AM
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Gary, you are right.
No more responses.
Kurt Salomon
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Posted: 06 Apr 2007 09:39 AM
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>I’m afraid not to or Walter will think I didn’t pass
>5th grade English.
Actually, I pay more attention to a professional unit’s use of 8th-grade
English. Eighth grade is where the kids in any decent school must put away the
invented and phonetic spellings, the scrambled syntax and the breakdowns in
logic. They also have to learn how to use paragraphs, and eschew outright BS. Or
flunk for life. Those who fail to master 8th-grade English have, in their own
peculiar way, sealed their fate communications-wise. It’s kinda like Logic 101
in college. Sleep through that, and one never quite catches up. Anyhow, writing
at the 8th-grade level comes pretty close to ensuring that most people – who
read at the 6th-grade level – will understand what the writer is trying to
convey.
Funny (to me anyway) that somebody brought up the notion of not capitalizing
nachi. In my business (publishing), most folks’ email never contains a capital
letter. That doesn’t bother me at all. It was good enough for e.e. cummings. I’d
do the same, except that my fingers just automatically go to the shift key when
they’re supposed to. After all this time, it’s hard to kill muscle memory.
Some might find this interesting. It describes some of what California expects
of its eighth-graders. If all HIs could work at this level, we could likely do
our reporting work just fine:
1.0 Writing Strategies
Students write clear, coherent, and focused essays. The writing exhibits
students’ awareness of audience and purpose. Essays contain formal
introductions, supporting evidence, and conclusions. Students progress through
the stages of the writing process as needed.
Organization and Focus
1.1 Create compositions that establish a controlling impression, have a coherent
thesis, and end with a clear and well-supported conclusion.
1.2 Establish coherence within and among paragraphs through effective
transitions, parallel structures, and similar writing techniques.
1.3 Support theses or conclusions with analogies, paraphrases, quotations,
opinions from authorities, comparisons, and similar devices.
Research and Technology
1.4 Plan and conduct multiple-step information searches by using computer
networks and modems.
1.5 Achieve an effective balance between researched information and original
ideas.
Evaluation and Revision
1.6 Revise writing for word choice; appropriate organization; consistent point
of view; and transitions between paragraphs, passages, and ideas.
wj (that was hard)
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 09:53 AM
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>> It was good enough for e.e. cummings.
But (i) he was a poet with a different mission and (ii) he often used
capitalization, simply applying the rules of his own artistic vision of reality.
(Stand back: I’m a cummings fan and have been reading his work for over 40
years, and wrote a number of papers on him in high school and college )
BTW, I’m not sure I agree with the 8th grade level of skill for professional
writers.
Which is what we (who actually write stuff in our reports) are.
{BTW, my younger daughter is in 10th grade, in a pretty good school system, and
is in honors English and has, I believe, the makings of a pretty good writer,
but no way I’d let her write my reports!)
In the alternative, if one wants to apply the 8th grade writing skill criteria,
it should be augmented with a post graduate reading comprehension skill level
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 10:24 AM
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>>> It was good enough for e.e. cummings.
>
>But (i) he was a poet with a different mission and (ii) he often used
>capitalization, simply applying the rules of his own artistic vision
>of reality. (Stand back: I’m a cummings fan and have been reading his
>work for over 40 years, and wrote a number of papers on him in high
>school and college )
I’m not advocating all-lower-case for professional writing. I’m just pointing
out that most of the folks I know who write (type) for a living never touch the
shift key for peer email. All-lower-case isn’t distracting to me. Might be to
others.
>BTW, I’m not sure I agree with the 8th grade level of skill for
>professional writers.
I think the skill level advocated by the CA documents would be fine for HI
writing. Of course, I’m talking about just writing correctly (mechanics), not
content. Surely, an adept 8th-grader doesn’t know much about, say, houses. But
an adept 8th-grader ought to be able to write reasonably well about the stuff he
knows. For instance, text-messaging.
>Which is what we (who actually write stuff in our reports) are.
Good luck selling that POV in the HI world. I’ve been reminded dozens of times
that HIs aren’t “professional writers,” even though they call themselves
professionals and they’re required to write about every job they do. That said,
those who just fill out checkboxes really aren’t writing, and if you ask me,
they aren’t delivering anything that could be called a “written report.”
>{BTW, my younger daughter is in 10th grade, in a pretty good school
>system, and is in honors English and has, I believe, the makings of a
>pretty good writer, but no way I’d let her write my reports!)
I hear you. I’ve got a graduating senior daughter who’s quite the creative and
accomplished storyteller, but she’d struggle to change a light bulb, or explain
how to change a light bulb. It’s that left-brain/right-brain thing.
>In the alternative, if one wants to apply the 8th grade writing skill
>criteria, it should be augmented with a post graduate reading
>comprehension skill level
For HIs, I’d be satisfied with a new GED and a passing grade in Logic 101. Those
who want to do consultant/expert work need graduate-level skills, if not
necessarily graduate-level education. One need not know Milton if he just wants
to write plainly. IMHO, too much Milton can ruin a writer.
College dropout, partly because of John Milton,
WJ
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 12:02 PM
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I may have posted this before.
Subject: Education Reform
<
Reacting to Federal Guidelines, the state of Massachusetts, which has
been highlighted as a role model for student testing by the two U.S.
senators from this State, released the following memo:
<
In response to the Federal No Child Left Behind Act, students will have
to pass it to be promoted to the next grade level. In the hopes
that it will be uniformly adopted by all the states, thus illuminating
Massachusetts to a
glorious front runner position in education, it
will be called: the Federal Arithmetic and Reading Test (FART).
<
All students who cannot pass a FART in the second grade will be retested
in grades 3-5 until such a time as they are capable of achieving a FART
score of 80%. If a student does not successfully FART by grade 5, that
student shall be placed in a separate English program, the Special
Massachusetts
Elective for Learning Language (SMELL).
If with this increased SMELL program the student cannot pass the
required FART, he or she can graduate to middle school by taking
a one-semester course in Comprehensive Reading and Arithmetic
Preparation
(CRAP).
<
If by age fourteen the student cannot FART, SMELL or CRAP, he or she
will earn a promotion in an intensive one-week seminar.
<
This is the Preparatory Reading for Unprepared Nationally Exempted
Students (PRUNES).
<
It is now the opinion of the Massachusetts Department of Public
Instruction that an intensive week of PRUNES will enable any student to
FART, SMELL or CRAP.
<
U.S. Senators Ted Kennedy and John Kerry stated that this revised
provision of the student-testing testing program should help clear the
air.
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That’s
From
Unruly
National
Nitwits
Yes?
Posted: 06 Apr 2007 01:18 PM
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I put a post in this thread that evidently was deleted. After ruminating on it
a bit, I must agree that my language was somewhat rude and imflammatory.
Although, it was not toward any members here, but directed toward NACHI and Nick
Gromicko in general. While I feel justified in my feelings concerning the two,
this was not the place to post that kind of remark. My apologies go out to
anyone here that I may have offended. I posted this immediately after I had
deleted my daily spam from NACHI and was more than a bit irritated.
Jerry Emery
Peace of Mind Home Inspection Service
Danville, IN
We service west central Indiana!
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Posted: 08 Apr 2007 10:29 AM
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Yeah, it was unseemly; didn’t sound like you. I didn’t think you’d mind.
Apologies are a nice thing; cleans the slate.
Kurt Mitenbuler
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Posted: 08 Apr 2007 10:07 AM
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Thanks Kurt. I appreciate that. And actually, I was going to delete it when I
found that you already had. Just chalk it up to a really BAD day.
Jerry Emery
Peace of Mind Home Inspection Service
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We service west central Indiana!
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Posted: 08 Apr 2007 10:27 AM
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>>and if you ask me, they aren’t delivering anything that could be called a
“written report.”
The SoP:
"REPORT:
“To communicate in writing.”
M-W online:
"Main Entry: write
"1 a : to form (as characters or symbols) on a surface with an instrument (as a
pen) b : to form (as words) by inscribing the characters or symbols of on a
surface
Hmmmmmm:
Are checks and the occasional chicken scratch on a pre-printed form a
“communication in writing?”
Posted: 08 Apr 2007 03:51 PM
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>>>and if you ask me, they aren’t delivering anything that could be called a
“written report.”
>
>The SoP:
>"REPORT:
>“To communicate in writing.”
>
>M-W online:
>"Main Entry: write
>"1 a : to form (as characters or symbols) on a surface with
>an instrument (as a pen) b : to form (as words) by
>inscribing the characters or symbols of on a surface
>
>Hmmmmmm:
>
>Are checks and the occasional chicken scratch on a
>pre-printed form a “communication in writing?”
I could see a lawyer (rightfully) arguing that a prefab-checklist HI report
might contain a little writing, but no meaningful communication.
Which brings to my mind the question: If virtually all of the report was written
by a person who never saw the house, with only margin notes and such from the
HI, is it even a report? And if it is a report, is it a report from the HI, or a
faraway checklist-writer?
And there’s this: If the HI hands off an old report that just has the customer
info changed, did he actually write a report?
Of course, all this is academic. If an HI really screws the pooch, the judge and
jury will let him know how he did it.
WJ
Posted: 08 Apr 2007 05:05 PM
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Let’s hope plaintiff’s bar doesn’t hack the site: it is surely “academic,” but
were I plaintiff’s counsel I’d consider throwing it into the argument (i) to
raise the cost of defending (encouraging settlement, perhaps) and (ii) in
attempt to get the SoP’s thrown out as a basis for decision.
Most/almost all checklist reports I’ve seen are a fool’s paradise: there is one
of the 3ring binder reports which is, I believe, well constructed from a
defensive point of view (and no, I won’t say which one.)
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Bob Walker
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Subject: ASHI financial problems
>> >>Which is what we (who actually write stuff in our reports) are.
>>Good luck selling that POV in the HI world.
Do you suppose the average HI eats, shoots, and leaves?
Posted: 08 Apr 2007 03:53 PM
