# To Be or not to be GFCI

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [August 28, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337 "2008-08-28T05:26:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![rnewman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@rnewman1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rnewman1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/1 "2008-08-28T05:26:48Z")

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A receptacle below the bathroom sink in the cabinet (you have to open a cabinet door), would that fall under the exception rule (1) not needed to be GFCI protected since it is not readily accessible ??

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**Author:** ![psiposs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cab0a1/32.png) [@psiposs](https://forum.nachi.org/u/psiposs)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:49am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/2 "2008-08-28T06:49:36Z")

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The GFCI function is for the person using the appliance plugged in. Can a hair dryer for example be plugged in and reach the sink? I say it should be GFCI protected.

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Fretwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@Greg\_Fretwell](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Greg_Fretwell)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/3 "2008-08-28T11:48:39Z")

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What exception? 210.8(A)(1) just says “bathrooms”.  
All 15 and 20a 120v receptacles in the bathroom must have GFCI protection without exception. (at least as far back as 1975)

I think you are confusing other parts of 210.8 that did have exceptions but they don’t apply to the bathroom.

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**Author:** ![rnewman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@rnewman1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rnewman1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/4 "2008-08-28T13:24:48Z")

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NEC 2002 210.8 (A)  
Exception No.1 Receptacles that are not readily accessible.

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**Author:** ![Speedy\_Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Speedy\_Petey](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Speedy_Petey)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/5 "2008-08-28T13:38:47Z")

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> [@rnewman1](#):
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> NEC 2002 210.8 (A)  
> Exception No.1 Receptacles that are not readily accessible.

Again, WHAT exception.  
There are NO exceptions to “210.8(A)(1) Bathrooms”.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_Port](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jim\_Port](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Jim_Port)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/6 "2008-08-28T14:53:37Z")

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Quite a contrast to the post, I don’t remember if it was here, where HI wanted GFI protection for dining room receptacle on the other side of a pass thru that was within 6’ of the kitchen sink.

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**Author:** ![Speedy\_Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Speedy\_Petey](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Speedy_Petey)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/7 "2008-08-28T15:46:40Z")

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He can “want” all he wants. That “request” holds no water.

**210.8 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection for Personnel**  
(A)(6) Kitchens — where the receptacles are installed to serve the countertop surfaces

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Whitt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mike_whitt/32/1670_2.png) [@Mike\_Whitt](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Mike_Whitt)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/8 "2008-08-28T15:51:54Z")

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> [@rnewman1](#):
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> NEC 2002 210.8 (A)  
> Exception No.1 Receptacles that are not readily accessible.

Ray,

Visit the other site for a full explanation of this

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Fretwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@Greg\_Fretwell](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Greg_Fretwell)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/9 "2008-08-28T17:04:45Z")

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The short answer is the exception you are looking at is to 210.8(A)(2) and does not apply to 210.8(A)(1). Two separate rules.

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**Author:** ![rnewman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a5b964/32.png) [@rnewman1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rnewman1)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/to-be-or-not-to-be-gfci/31337/10 "2008-08-28T17:46:42Z")

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Thanks Mike
