# Trump's Liberation Day is unfortunately liberation from low prices for us **URL:** \ **Category:** Misc. Discussion\ **Created:** [March 31, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372 "2025-03-31T05:17:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/1 "2025-03-31T05:17:20Z")
Tariffs are taxes on us. The Chinese don’t pay tariffs on products they sell. The buyer pays them. And worse… that tax money goes solely to federal bureaucrats. More money is the last thing our over-spending federal government needs. ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/2 "2025-03-31T05:22:58Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > The buyer pays them. **ONLY** if the purchaser actually buys their cheap arse products!! Buy American… fight Communism!! ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 6:52am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/3 "2025-03-31T06:52:17Z")
> [@jjonas](#): > > **ONLY** if the purchaser actually buys their cheap arse products!! > Buy American… fight Communism!! The U.S. doesn’t make most products. ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/4 "2025-03-31T07:09:58Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > The U.S. doesn’t make most products. And there lay the hypocrisy of Tariffs. You can’t manufacture with no plaints and skilled labor. The USA watched its own demise due to wanting more for less and manufacturing overseas. Now it will pay more again due to taxes. Lol. China is not to blame. They used their endless population to build cheaply for Walmart and the likes. ---
**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:42am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/5 "2025-03-31T10:42:11Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > The U.S. doesn’t make most products…. …(needed.) **Yet.** There will be a shift. An equilibrium will be met. ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/6 "2025-03-31T10:49:19Z")
> [@lkage](#): > > An equilibrium will be met. 1: It takes years to get BIG investment capital. Remember, investors do not like uncertain markets. 2: Takes years build a plant. Remember, investors do not like uncertain markets. 3: Labor prices will be too high. That is why they moved manufacturing overseas. America did it to themselves. Trump never built anything brick and mortar that would last. Its a con game. ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/7 "2025-03-31T10:49:24Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > that tax money goes solely to federal bureaucrats. No tariffs on American made. Or our manufacturing goes overseas. Pick your poison. ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/8 "2025-03-31T10:51:31Z")
> [@ryoung7](#): > > 1: It takes years to get BIG investment capital. Remember, investors do not like uncertain markets. > 2: Takes years build a plant. Remember, investors do not like uncertain markets. > 3: Labor prices will be too high. That is why they moved manufacturing overseas. > America did it to themselves. Oh, so we should offshore everything and take no action? Listen to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:52am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/9 "2025-03-31T10:52:06Z")
> [@bcawhern1](#): > > No tariffs on American made. Why are tariffs being placed on goods. Trump agreed to NAFTA. Trump does not think. He reacts. ---
**Author:** ![kleonard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kleonard/32/170953_2.png) [@kleonard](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kleonard)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/10 "2025-03-31T10:55:00Z")
Just over 2 months in and the results of the Trump economy are starting to show themselves. I’m not an economist, but common-sense says to look for it to get worse, and possibly much worse, long before it gets any better, all for justification to implement a huge tax cut that’s heavily tilted in favor of the ultra-rich. > **[Consumer confidence slumps to 12-year low as Americans fret over their...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/consumer-confidence-falls-tariffs-inflation-trump/#:~:text=Consumer%20confidence%20slumps%20to%2012%2Dyear%20low%20as%20Americans%20fret%20over%20their%20financial%20prospects)** > > Consumer confidence continues to wane as Americans worry about the economy, jobs and their income. > **[Donald Trump's approval rating over economy plunges to new low](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-update-economy-2051976#:~:text=Donald%20Trump%27s%20Approval%20Rating%20Over%20Economy%20Plunges%20to%20New%20Low)** > > Polls suggest voter dissatisfaction with Trump's handling of the economy may stem from their perception of the president's top priorities. ---
**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/11 "2025-03-31T10:55:06Z")
> [@lkage](#): > > > [@gromicko](#): > > > > The U.S. doesn’t make most products…. …(needed.) > > **Yet.** > > There will be a shift. An equilibrium will be met. > [@ryoung7](#): > > 1: It takes years to get BIG investment capital. Remember, investors do not like uncertain markets. > 2: Takes years build a plant. Remember, investors do not like uncertain markets. > 3: Labor prices will be too high. That is why they moved manufacturing overseas. > America did it to themselves. > Trump never built anything brick and mortar that would last. > Its a con game.,. Wow, Robert! As soon as I can appreciate your wisdom on this subject, I’m going to ask you about “life after death”…hang on. 😔 ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/12 "2025-03-31T10:56:23Z")
> [@ryoung7](#): > > Why are tariffs being placed on goods. > Trump agreed to NAFTA. Two things…try to keep up. 1. NAFTA agreed terms are being honored. Trump is President of you and your Canadian politicians brains. So he will leverage what he needs to get a deal for the USA. All you can do is watch. 2. Canada cheated > - President Donald Trump [granted temporary tariff exemptions](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-tariffs-live-updates-businesses-warn-of-ripple-down-effects-from-tariffs-because-of-rising-costs.html#108112278-ymK13jIfP) for Canadian and Mexican goods covered by the North American trade agreement known as USMCA until April 2. **Here is the good news you will hate** > **[New U.S. Factories Announced in February 2025 - IndustrySelect®](https://www.industryselect.com/blog/new-us-factories-announced-in-february-2025)** > > Learn more about the new and expanded manufacturing companies announced in the United States in February 2025. ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/13 "2025-03-31T10:58:38Z")
> [@kleonard](#): > > common-sense says Yep! I concur. You just have to use common-sense and compare it to what has happened in less than 90 days. 😠 ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/14 "2025-03-31T10:58:43Z")
> [@kleonard](#): > > I’m not an economist, but common-sense says to look for it to get worse, and possibly much worse, long before it gets any better, That is because politicians and never Trumpers think there is an easy way out. No…that’s not true..they just want to make sure Trump does not lead the way out. They would rather not admit the problem exists. Thank God Trump is talking about things politicians would never. ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/15 "2025-03-31T10:59:22Z")
> [@ryoung7](#): > > You just have to use common-sense and compare it to what has happened in less than 90 days > **[New U.S. Factories Announced in February 2025 - IndustrySelect®](https://www.industryselect.com/blog/new-us-factories-announced-in-february-2025)** > > Learn more about the new and expanded manufacturing companies announced in the United States in February 2025. Some of us can see a way forward. Others can only see their TDS symptoms. ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/16 "2025-03-31T11:00:44Z")
> [@bcawhern1](#): > > That is because politicians and never Trumpers think there is an easy way out. Brian, it could have been Santa Claus at the helm and the same reaction would occur. 25 percent tariffs on Christmas toys…People rebel! ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:02am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/17 "2025-03-31T11:02:56Z")
[During the Biden-Harris Administration](https://www.commerce.gov/news/blog/2024/10/manufacturing-booms-thanks-biden-harris-administration-investments), **over 700,000 new manufacturing jobs have been created** and **over $910 billion in private manufacturing investments** have been announced nationwide. As manufacturing has soared, so too has the opportunity for workers of all backgrounds to get good-paying, quality jobs. ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/18 "2025-03-31T11:13:19Z")
And you think that is true? After needlessly killing America’s small business during COVID, any gains made were superficial. Here is the counter propaganda puff piece to contrast that ridiculous article you posted (and believe) > **[Biden-Harris Record: Job Losses for Small Business While Adding More...](https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2024/09/06/biden-harris-record-job-losses-for-small-business-while-adding-more-government-bureaucrats/)** ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/19 "2025-03-31T11:16:09Z")
> [@ryoung7](#): > > it could have been Santa Claus at the helm and the same reaction would occur. Well it is not Santa Claus > **[UAW president Shawn Fain says "tariffs are a tool in the toolbox" in helping...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uaw-president-shawn-fain-tariffs-auto-works-donald-trump/)** > > Shawn Fain, president of the United Auto Workers union, praised President Trump's move to impose tariffs on vehicles, while noting that "tariffs aren't the total solution." ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372/20 "2025-03-31T11:22:20Z")
> [@ryoung7](#): > > 1: It takes years to get BIG investment capital. Remember, investors do not like uncertain markets. Stocks suffer due to uncertainty in the short term. But the goals are clear. Trump is a one term president so he can be bold, unlike our previous dementia patient. > The new administration moved quickly to introduce new tariffs, notably including 20% duties on goods from China and as well as threats of potential 25% tariffs on pharmaceutical and chip imports. Although the specific legal rationales for the measure have varied, the administration has broadly justified them as necessary for national security, economic independence, and job creation. The president has repeatedly encouraged companies previously reliant on overseas production to ramp up U.S.-based manufacturing. > > **The immediate response has been significant, with both American and foreign companies accelerating investment initiatives across the U.S**. Tech giants have been at the forefront of this movement, announcing billion-dollar investments to mitigate tariff impacts. [Apple](https://www.barrons.com/market-data/stocks/aapl?mod=article_chiclet) set the tone in February with a four-year, $500 billion investment pledge to construct a large factory in Texas that will produce advanced AI server equipment previously manufactured in China. In March, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing announced a $100 billion investment to build five new semiconductor fabrication plants in the U.S., even though Trump has said he wants to end support to chip makers provided under the Biden-era Chips Act. Japan’s [SoftBank Group](https://www.barrons.com/market-data/stocks/9984?countrycode=jp&mod=article_chiclet) committed $100 billion to support AI and tech ventures in the U.S. These investments reflect a strategic shift driven by tariffs and the promise of a more favorable domestic manufacturing environment. [https://www.barrons.com/articles/trump-tariffs-manufacturing-stocks-europe-fa21ebd0](https://www.barrons.com/articles/trump-tariffs-manufacturing-stocks-europe-fa21ebd0) [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/trumps-liberation-day-is-unfortunately-liberation-from-low-prices-for-us/254372.md?page=2)