# Two wire

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [May 31, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748 "2008-05-31T03:20:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![nbhi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/nbhi/32/982_2.png) [@nbhi](https://forum.nachi.org/u/nbhi)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/1 "2008-05-31T03:20:08Z")

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Does anyone see an issue with the limitation of the electrical panel? There is no more room for any circuits to be added.

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**Author:** ![jbushart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@jbushart](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbushart)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/2 "2008-05-31T03:45:50Z")

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I note it in the report, but not necessarily as a defect. I report that the introduction of any additional branch circuits in the future will require an upgrade to a larger box with a possibility of a greater number of amps to provide power to it.

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**Author:** ![jkogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e47774/32.png) [@jkogel](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jkogel)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/3 "2008-05-31T04:24:46Z")

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Gary, I see a double-tap or i’m just seeing double. 😛 😛 On the right hand 15A mini-breaker.

We have standard statements - Expansion room-No,  
May be inadequate for present-day demands, or similar.

John Kogel  
ww.allsafehome.ca

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**Author:** ![nbhi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/nbhi/32/982_2.png) [@nbhi](https://forum.nachi.org/u/nbhi)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/4 "2008-05-31T09:49:02Z")

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I failed to mention that there is a 40amp breaker being feed from the main lugs, double tap?

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**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/5 "2008-05-31T13:31:36Z")

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When some of the breakers are ON they read “NO”, you know, upside down.

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**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/6 "2008-05-31T13:35:15Z")

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> [@jbushart](#):
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> I note it in the report, but not necessarily as a defect.

Agreed…and when some of the breakers are ON they read “NO”, you know, upside down older stuff and no grounding.

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**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/7 "2008-05-31T13:53:56Z")

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All they need is a side car.

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**Author:** ![Speedy\_Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Speedy\_Petey](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Speedy_Petey)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/8 "2008-05-31T14:18:50Z")

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Those two large red wires are double tapped off the main lugs and going through a too-small nipple to somewhere. Also, no neutral or ground along with those nasty reds.

I’d call the whole thing out. There is MORE than enough wrong there to justify this.

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**Author:** ![gbeaumont](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gbeaumont/32/1094_2.png) [@gbeaumont](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gbeaumont)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/9 "2008-05-31T14:26:19Z")

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> [@Speedy Petey](#):
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> Those two large red wires are double tapped off the main lugs and going through a too-small nipple to somewhere. Also, no neutral or ground along with those nasty reds.
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> I’d call the whole thing out. There is MORE than enough wrong there to justify this.

Ditto what Pete said, definately a homeowner wiring job in there.

Regards

Gerry

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**Author:** ![Speedy\_Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Speedy\_Petey](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Speedy_Petey)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/10 "2008-05-31T19:46:12Z")

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I have always said I really don’t care about the whole red/green box thing, but this one puzzles me.  
WHY did I get a red box for the post above??? Of course the coward didn’t sign his name so this is a complete mystery.

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**Author:** ![dvalley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dvalley/32/206092_2.png) [@dvalley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dvalley)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/11 "2008-05-31T19:49:52Z")

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> [@Speedy Petey](#):
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> I have always said I really don’t care about the whole red/green box thing, but this one puzzles me.  
> WHY did I get a red box for the post above??? Of course the coward didn’t sign his name so this is a complete mystery.

Speedy,

There are many cowards here who do the same to me, but it doesn’t bother me any more.

For someone who doesn’t care about “the red thingy”, why are you checking on it? Just ignore the feature…

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**Author:** ![Speedy\_Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Speedy\_Petey](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Speedy_Petey)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/12 "2008-06-01T00:02:09Z")

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> [@dvalley](#):
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> For someone who doesn’t care about “the red thingy”, why are you checking on it? Just ignore the feature…

You are actually right. I guess if I were a cat I’d be dead. :mrgreen:

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**Author:** ![Marc\_D.Shunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/marc_d.shunk/32/958_2.png) [@Marc\_D.Shunk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Marc_D.Shunk)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/13 "2008-06-01T05:31:10Z")

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> [@Speedy Petey](#):
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> You are actually right. I guess if I were a cat I’d be dead. :mrgreen:

You made me paranoid, so I had to check mine. So far, so good.

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**Author:** ![Speedy\_Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Speedy\_Petey](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Speedy_Petey)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/two-wire/28748/14 "2008-06-01T11:42:07Z")

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> [@Marc D. Shunk](#):
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> You made me paranoid, so I had to check mine. So far, so good.

I swear, for a split second I thought you were talking about your cat. :mrgreen:
