# unorthodox commercial set up

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [August 9, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943 "2014-08-09T12:58:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![badair](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/badair/32/166699_2.png) [@badair](https://forum.nachi.org/u/badair)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943/1 "2014-08-09T12:58:45Z")

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imagine 3 side by side separate entry leases in 1 building

service comes into center lease with interior main panel for all 3 units, with branch metering

there is no access from the other leases for any type of ocd control/lock out, repair, servicing, upgrade or inspection without center unit lessor provision & allowance of access

what’s your spin on this set up?

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**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943/2 "2014-08-09T13:10:28Z")

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I would say that don’t sound right at all Barry.  
That should all be installed in an accessible area like the exterior.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_Port](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jim\_Port](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Jim_Port)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943/3 "2014-08-09T13:24:02Z")

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Were there panels in each tenant space? What you describe sounds very common with metering and service in one location.

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**Author:** ![growden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/growden/32/58544_2.png) [@growden](https://forum.nachi.org/u/growden)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943/4 "2014-08-09T13:24:10Z")

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I’m just going to throw a guess out there. Its sounds like it was originally a single unit divided into 3. With not giving access to panel for the other 2 units, I would suspect not a permitted division or interior doors providing access were locked and not allowing access

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**Author:** ![jmckee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jmckee/32/211009_2.png) [@jmckee](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jmckee)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943/5 "2014-08-09T13:33:34Z")

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I’m thinking everyone would have to try to get along with door number two…

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**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943/6 "2014-08-09T17:55:49Z")

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There is an exception in the NEC that would permit an installation like this however it’s highly restrictive. A similar requirement for access to the OCPD’s is in article 240.

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> 230.72  
> Exception: In a multiple-occupancy building where electric service and electrical maintenance are provided by the build- ing management and where these are under continuous build- ing management supervision, the service disconnecting means supplying more than one occupancy shall be permitted to be accessible to authorized management personnel only.

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**Author:** ![badair](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/badair/32/166699_2.png) [@badair](https://forum.nachi.org/u/badair)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/unorthodox-commercial-set-up/88943/7 "2014-08-09T18:23:39Z")

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> [@Jim\_Port](#):
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> Were there panels in each tenant space? What you describe sounds very common with metering and service in one location.

Jim-not per client  
will know more after 08-13-14 inspex

> [@Robert\_Meier](#):
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> There is an exception in the NEC that would permit an installation like this however it’s highly restrictive. A similar requirement for access to the OCPD’s is in article 240.

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> 230.72  
> Exception: In a multiple-occupancy building where electric service and electrical maintenance are provided by the build- ing management and where these are under continuous build- ing management supervision, the service disconnecting means supplying more than one occupancy shall be permitted to be accessible to authorized management personnel only.

Robert-thanks
