Valley

[Frank_Albert]

@ccurrins

Correct, the “flashing” is the back of gutter bent over, leaving approx. 3/4" gap between the facia and decking.

At the most there is a 1" shingle overhang. Even if rain water would drain properly, here we get our share of snow and ice, that I think the osb would soak right up. Also wind driven rain would be an issue.

You’re as right as rain there!

[jevans (John Evans)]

Where is the fascia?

[mcyr (Marcel Cyr, CMI)]

I think it is the gutter John.
The builder could not afford the pre-primed pine. :)

[lkage (Larry Kage, CMI)]

@Frank_Albert

After 40 years of roofing and chasing leaks and damage, I can assure you drip edge is not a cure-all. Runing the shingle 1-1/4" to 1-1/2" over the eave will suffice nicely and never cause damage.
Now, a drip edge only sticks out 1/2" and shingles run flush to it will allow water onto the fascia and water will wick under it too.
When I use DE, I run 1-1/4" past it. Here’s a picture of mine with DE and the 1-1/4" over.
In the second picture, you can see where the water quit following the shingle bottom.

One doesn’t just lean a ladder up against there and climb up then…

[vsantos (Vince Santos, Reg104669Cc)]

@Frank_Albert

After 40 years of roofing and chasing leaks and damage, I can assure you drip edge is not a cure-all. Runing the shingle 1-1/4" to 1-1/2" over the eave will suffice nicely and never cause damage.
Now, a drip edge only sticks out 1/2" and shingles run flush to it will allow water onto the fascia and water will wick under it too.
When I use DE, I run 1-1/4" past it. Here’s a picture of mine with DE and the 1-1/4" over.
In the second picture, you can see where the water quit following the shingle bottom.

Here’s a photo of shingles 1-1/4" off the drip edge. They have curled over and split. How can asphalt shingles hold form when they stick out that far with no support?

[dvalley (David Valley, License #566 - CMI)]

@vsantos

Here’s a photo of shingles 1-1/4" off the drip edge. They have curled over and split. How can asphalt shingles hold form when they stick out that far with no support?

Vince,

Even though a 1 1/4" overhang is a bit much, the problem with those architectural shingles is that the installer should not have cut the shingle so that it leaves a 1/4" of the tab at an overhang. Knowing that a small tab would remain, it should have been cut from the other end of the shingle or simply cut off.

[dvalley (David Valley, License #566 - CMI)]

@lkage

One doesn’t just lean a ladder up against there and climb up then…

Larry,

There appears to be a lower roof below that area (to stand on).

[lkage (Larry Kage, CMI)]

@dvalley

Larry,

There appears to be a lower roof below that area (to stand on).

David, my comment is: What if there is no lower roof or the lower roof has the same shingle overhang to lean the ladder against?

[Frank_Albert]

“Here’s a photo of shingles 1-1/4” off the drip edge. They have curled over and split. How can asphalt shingles hold form when they stick out that far with no support? "
Though we went from eave to rake, that’s done by faulty cutting on the install.
And shingles won’t sag any on the rakes UNLESS; The installer did NOT precut them so they were only about 4" over before the trim cut. Some Mo-mo’s will hang 1’ or even 18" of shingle over the rake bending them to the point of no return.
Me, I trim cut, then install with ‘heavies’, lighter ones get precut to not exceed 3-4".

[dvalley (David Valley, License #566 - CMI)]

@lkage

David, my comment is: What if there is no lower roof or the lower roof has the same shingle overhang to lean the ladder against?

I wasn’t there. No need to argue the point. Simply ask.

[lkage (Larry Kage, CMI)]

@dvalley

I wasn’t there. No need to argue the point. Simply ask.

Funny…not pugnacious here…curious how the ladder bends the shingles with that approach of overhang.

Valley

[Frank_Albert]

@lkage

One doesn’t just lean a ladder up against there and climb up then…

Of course not. I attach my stabalizer and land it on the roof so the ladder is held off about an inch. Same as I do if there are gutters. No difference that I can think of.

[lkage (Larry Kage, CMI)]

@Frank_Albert

Of course not. I attach my stabalizer and land it on the roof so the ladder is held off about an inch. Same as I do if there are gutters. No difference that I can think of.

Oh thanks, of course, just hadn’t thought about that.

Something like this then?

http://www.rd.com/18271/article18271.html

http://www.rd.com/images/tfhimport/2000/May00_Using_Tools/20000501_Using_Tools_page001img001.jpg

[Frank_Albert]

Yes. I use the Werner Quik-Clik which just snaps on or off. Only costs about $35.00 And, if you have limited room, it come apart with hitch pins for easy storage in a trunk or whatever. Use it daily.

[kshepard (Kenton Shepard, CMI)]

Open, Woven and Cut valleys- all relatively common although few newer homes have woven valleys around here. Woven and Cut valleys should be lined with at least one 36" wide strip of roll roofing run down the valley.

[dvalley (David Valley, License #566 - CMI)]

@kshepard

Open, Woven and Cut valleys- all relatively common although few newer homes have woven valleys around here. Woven and Cut valleys should be lined with at least one 36" wide strip of roll roofing run down the valley.

Kenton,

That middle pic shows me a lousy installation of shingles…