# Virginia Tech Shooting **URL:** \ **Category:** Misc. Discussion\ **Created:** [December 8, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814 "2011-12-08T18:31:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![maltizer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/maltizer/32/407089_2.png) [@maltizer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/maltizer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/1 "2011-12-08T18:31:20Z")
Its happening to us again. This time an officer has been shot and campus is on lockdown. I am 5 minutes from VT, right now and man is on the run. Radio said officer didn’t make it and someone else has been shot . Please pray for Virginia tech today. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/2 "2011-12-08T18:50:55Z")
Charge every able-bodied University employee present who didn’t return fire with the same charges filed against the perpetrator. If you are able-bodied, you have a moral duty to help defend your fellow citizen from nutcases and/or tyranny. For K-12 schools, it is imperative that school administrators, responsible for the safety of our children, be trained and armed so that they can fulfill that duty. ---
**Author:** ![maltizer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/maltizer/32/407089_2.png) [@maltizer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/maltizer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/3 "2011-12-08T18:57:19Z")
Trying to get our kids. 2 people are dead already. Thanks for caring for us Nick. ---
**Author:** ![maltizer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/maltizer/32/407089_2.png) [@maltizer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/maltizer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/4 "2011-12-08T19:00:04Z")
We have the kids ---
**Author:** ![maltizer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/maltizer/32/407089_2.png) [@maltizer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/maltizer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/5 "2011-12-08T19:28:17Z")
Cops everywhere with automatic rifles. ---
**Author:** ![wmisegades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wmisegades](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wmisegades)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/6 "2011-12-08T19:40:07Z")
> [@maltizer](#): > > We have the kids Hey Michael, just heard the news on the radio. I’m glad you got your kids back safe and sound! ---
**Author:** ![maltizer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/maltizer/32/407089_2.png) [@maltizer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/maltizer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/7 "2011-12-08T19:58:16Z")
Will thanks for caring. My kids are everything to me and crystal. ---
**Author:** ![wmisegades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wmisegades](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wmisegades)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/8 "2011-12-08T20:05:44Z")
> [@maltizer](#): > > Will thanks for caring. My kids are everything to me and crystal. I cannot imagine the fear and anguish you went through and I hurt for the people who lost their loved ones today. I’m with you, my kids are everything to my wife and me. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/9 "2011-12-08T20:16:52Z")
Are carry permit holders allowed to help defend the innocent at that University? I would hope so considering what happened last year. ---
**Author:** ![maltizer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/maltizer/32/407089_2.png) [@maltizer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/maltizer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/10 "2011-12-08T20:34:23Z")
Nick (2007, April), I am not 100 percent sure, but I do not think firearms are legally permitted on campus as of today. I am with your way of thinking though. You would think that of one had a permit to use a firearm, then he should be able to defend himself, as well as others. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/11 "2011-12-08T21:06:18Z")
Correct. There will always be nuts who have access to weapons. We can’t do much about that. What we can do is send the real mass murderers to prison for life. Those being the pro-rape/pro-murder/gun control nuts who leave women with nothing but their screams as a defense, and school administrators with nothing more than chalkboard erasers to defend the children they are entrusted with. Send them all to prison forever for the rapes and deaths they permitted. ---
**Author:** ![maltizer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/maltizer/32/407089_2.png) [@maltizer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/maltizer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/12 "2011-12-08T21:20:07Z")
Agreed. Better yet let them deal with a true redneck, like yours truly. ---
**Author:** ![maltizer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/maltizer/32/407089_2.png) [@maltizer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/maltizer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/13 "2011-12-08T21:40:21Z")
Local authorities now determine there is no threat, they say it’s over. ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/14 "2011-12-08T21:52:51Z")
I always carry. Even at home. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. ---
**Author:** ![jferry1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jferry1/32/57038_2.png) [@jferry1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jferry1)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/15 "2011-12-09T01:16:17Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > Charge every able-bodied University employee present who didn’t return fire with the same charges filed against the perpetrator. If you are able-bodied, you have a moral duty to help defend your fellow citizen from nutcases and/or tyranny. For K-12 schools, it is imperative that school administrators, responsible for the safety of our children, be trained and armed so that they can fulfill that duty. When seconds count, police are only minutes away. ---
**Author:** ![kwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kwood/32/473_2.png) [@kwood](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kwood)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/16 "2011-12-09T01:24:14Z")
They should learn to shoot a dart gun like they do for Animals since they are Animals. All should be trained by the Government to protect in a situation like this. ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/17 "2011-12-09T01:33:50Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > Charge every able-bodied University employee present who didn’t return fire with the same charges filed against the perpetrator. If you are able-bodied, you have a moral duty to help defend your fellow citizen from nutcases and/or tyranny. Not sure what you mean exactly. If you’re talking about CWP holders like myself, it’s my moral \*duty \*to keep myself alive for my family’s sake. CWP holders are not the police. American’s have a 2nd amendment right to carry firearms (albeit with many restrictions in some states). For those of us that have chosen to exercise that Constitutional right, it isn’t our \*duty \*to defend the sheep out there who have chosen \*not \*to defend themselves. I may \*choose \*to do so, and probably would in certain circumstances, but it isn’t and shouldn’t be a private citizen’s \*duty \*to defend someone else. ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/18 "2011-12-09T01:35:48Z")
> [@kwood](#): > > All should be trained by the Government to protect in a situation like this. How about taking the initiative to learn how to protect yourself? You really think the “Government” should train “all” people in self defense? :roll: ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 6:34am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/19 "2011-12-09T06:34:06Z")
The one situation where it is every citizen’s duty to help protect their fellow citizen is when thwarting tyranny. For every-day crime, a law-abiding citizen simply brandishing a weapon (and not firing it), is enough of a deterrent in most cases. ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814/20 "2011-12-09T13:48:10Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > For every-day crime, a law-abiding citizen simply brandishing a weapon (and not firing it), is enough of a deterrent in most cases. I take it you are not a CWP holder. Brandishing a gun will get you killed. You should never pull a weapon unless you intend to use it. [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/virginia-tech-shooting/64814.md?page=2)