What preparation is required for instillation of vinyl tile

Originally Posted By: Sunil Khaneja
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I am trying to install vinyl tile on a commercial cement surface. What do I need to do? There is some glue left from a previous carpet. Do I need to remove it first? What happens if the contractor puts tile on top of the glue?


Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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if your talking about 12x12 vinal flooring, then keep in mind that any little bit of debris or imperfection in the sub floor will result in “pops” in the tile. you may not see them right away, but as time goes on and the flooring has time to settle, they show up like a sore thumb. get yourself a couple buckets of floor leveler and a good troul, some knee pads and a good day with just you and the floor. use a 4’’ wall/floor sraper and get all that glue off for a nice smooth sub floor. next day, hire some laborers to lay tile the way tradition says (alternate “grane” pattern every tile) bill the guy, pay your guys and have a nice day… icon_cool.gif


Originally Posted By: dedwards
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I know this is going to sound flippant but if you have to ask that question you are already in over your head. Hire someone to put the vinyl down. You will be happier in the long run.


Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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Doug. although your probably right, i see no problem giving advice on “cosmetic” jobs. if it were say plumbing or electrical? nope, no love from me. but if he screws up the floor, no one dies ya know. icon_cool.gif


Originally Posted By: dedwards
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Jay,


lol, yep. I just get so many solicitations from friends and neighbors about how to do things because they all think a HI is an expert in all home repairs matters. Then they hose it up and often try to come back to me and say,


“I thought you said…” Guess I am just a little gun shy. You are right though, if the floor looks like hell, they only way they may get hurt is if the spouse tried to get them to hire someone in the first place.


Originally Posted By: Monte Lunde
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Sunil Khaneja is having a tile contractor do the work from her post, but she is looking to see if the floor needs to have the carpet glue removed. The answer is yes.



Monte Lunde CCI, CCPM, CRI


Viking Construction Services Inc.

Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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Doug.


your right again, i usualy turn my head when somone i know asks those questions because i'm the type and it usualy end up like......

"Jay did you say to............or was i suposed to........."

"no what i said was.........ya know what, just run to the store for a six pack and i'll be right over to "show you"............"

and yes i usualy end up doing the entire job. i've instructed my oldest brother many times how to finish the "wynes" coting in his bathroom and yes i am going up there next week to finish that one too. so far all he's done for the remodel is buy the stuff, call me scratching his head and frustrated, i feel bad and head up. but hey i don't even know Sunil, and i don't think a six pack would be enough for me to do that floor. ![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif)


Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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Sunil,


I say take a visit over to http://forum.doityourself.com/forumdisplay.php?f=33 and their are some great MODS who can assist you their. Not really something a HI should explain to you unless they are contracted in that field of profession in my opinion.

But since we are pluggin away.......laying it on a concrete foor would kill my feet....I lay a sub-floor down that will add a bit of rebound to the flooring and then lay the tile to that......but hey who am I...Good luck on your project...


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Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Sunil:

In answer to your question, I would have to ask what color was the adhesive on the floor?
Black! not good. yellow, clear, or white, so, so, .

If the adhesive that that was used was black, it will come up with a floor scrapper, but you need to be able to know if it is of the asbestos content.

(old cut-back adhesive).

Water based adhesive is more friendly and will be a big B to scrap. Most or all of the majority of the trowel notch adhesive marks have to be removed or will crop up in the final product finish.

If that adhesive can not be peeled off, I would recommend skim coating the whole floor with a product like ARDEX. Very good product for skim coating a floor to make ready for floor tile.
This ARDEX feather finish is designed for this type of application and is great to work with.

Hope this helps.

Marcel