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#1

Originally Posted By: jpope
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These were taken by another inspector. I don’t know (nor have I ever seen) this device that’s attached to the service panel and double tapped into a 50 amp breaker. It’s also overfused as the wire gauge is too small for 50 amps.


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#2

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Jeff


The breaker picture bothers me. There is not enough info from the picture for me to give you any advice.

Still a good call to have it examined.

Mike P.

#3

Originally Posted By: roconnor
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What is that 50A circuit for, and do ya have a better pic/description of what is connected to it? Can’t tell either, but maybe surge protection? Just a WAG.

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#4

Originally Posted By: hgordon
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Jeff, ditto here!


I have seen something similar and it was a Lightning Arrestor (surge protector)...but to be fair, from the pic I cant really tell much...where is Joe T or Jerry P when you need them?

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#5

Originally Posted By: Bob Badger
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Most likely a surge suppressor.


It should not be double tapped and probably had instructions to place it on it's on 20 or 30 amp two pole breaker.

There should also be a connection to the neutral.

I install some commercial ones that require a 50 amp breaker but the physical size of these 50 amp units are about 14"W x 16"H x 8"D.

One other guess would be a 'signal bridge'.

There are some devices on the market that allow remote switching of lights bt sending signals through the electric wires, in order for these signals to reach everywhere you need to bridge the two phases.

If this is a signal bridge it will only have two leads and could be put on a 1 amp breaker if you had one.

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#6

Originally Posted By: Bob Badger
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Heres a link to a bunch of signal bridges, some use a neutral some do not.


http://www.smarthome.com/4815.html

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#7

Originally Posted By: jpope
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Thanks for the replies guys. Unfortunately, as I mentioned before, these pictures were taken by someone else. I’ve got no other angles or better shots icon_sad.gif

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#8

Originally Posted By: jpeck
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One time surge protector. Improperly connected (but at least they have the surge protector OUTSIDE the panel, that’s a start in the right direction). Looks like it is mounted through a knock out, which is also good.


Okay, that the good stuff about it. Nothing else is good about it.

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#9

Originally Posted By: jpope
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I should have known Jerry would have the answer icon_biggrin.gif These pictures came from Florida


Must be cuz uv that sparkly stuff in the sky when it's rainin'

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#10

Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Yep, we have about 6 or so places around the state which claim to be the lightning capital of the world. So, if there is any truth to them, as a whole, we must rank up there pretty darn high for that sparkly stuff.


I call those one-time surge suppressors 'one hit wonders', because they are good for one hit, and you wonder if its already been hit or not.

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Jerry Peck
South Florida

#11

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Hey what about Ohio?


We have more lighting 'strikes' than Florida!

Mike P.

#12

Originally Posted By: rhinck
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Just saw one of these last night on an inspection. It was doulble tapped into the main.



Rick

#13

Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Most all of the one hit wonders I see are double tapped somewhere, frequently including the mains.

#14

Originally Posted By: jpope
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Are they supposed to be on their own breaker? Or are they supposed to be hooked up to a “two wire” breaker in some other circuit?

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