# When Chocolate City **URL:** \ **Category:** Misc. Discussion\ **Created:** [June 21, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409 "2008-06-21T16:30:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![klott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/klott/32/59_2.png) [@klott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/klott)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/1 "2008-06-21T16:30:57Z")
comes to be, will it be pay back time? We have already seen how Obama’s associates feel about white people, he went to a racist church for 20 years. Read [this](http://www.observer.com/2008/spike-lee-predicts-chocolate-city-under-obama) and think about it, who is the hope for and what will be the change? I don’t think it has anything to do with unity. ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/2 "2008-06-21T16:39:05Z")
Kenneth here’s the guy all you southerner’s need to vote for, real change. [http://www.bobbarr2008.com/splash/video/?s0618](http://www.bobbarr2008.com/splash/video/?s0618) ---
**Author:** ![klott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/klott/32/59_2.png) [@klott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/klott)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/3 "2008-06-21T17:42:15Z")
What does it have to do with Southerners, he makes more sense than anyone else running. But it will never happen. My thoughts on this have absolutely nothing to do with prejudice on my part, just the facts. ---
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/4 "2008-06-21T18:02:51Z")
Ken you are sounding very racist ,and should remove this post. I believe you are breaking forum rules and suggest you do so immediatly. ---
**Author:** ![mlarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mlarson/32/89225_2.png) [@mlarson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mlarson)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/5 "2008-06-21T18:27:12Z")
> [@relliott](#): > > Ken you are sounding very racist ,and should remove this post. > > I believe you are breaking forum rules and suggest you do so immediately. Bob, I think it’s fair to point out Spike Lee’s “chocolate city” reference. There are numerous examples of racism in politics. Unfortunately they proceed very often from the left. Martin Luther King famously called for a society where color was not considered. He was right. And when Spike Lee and the goofball in New Orleans speak of “chocolate cities”. I find that highly offensive. The color of one’s skin should never be a consideration for anything. And that goes for people of color and those called “white”. ---
**Author:** ![mivie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mivie/32/558_2.png) [@mivie](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mivie)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/6 "2008-06-21T18:35:04Z")
Well said Michael. ---
**Author:** ![jburkeson1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jburkeson1/32/328752_2.png) [@jburkeson1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jburkeson1)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/7 "2008-06-21T19:05:34Z")
> [@klott](#): > > comes to be, will it be pay back time? We have already seen how Obama’s associates feel about white people, he went to a racist church for 20 years. Read [this](http://www.observer.com/2008/spike-lee-predicts-chocolate-city-under-obama) and think about it, who is the hope for and what will be the change? I don’t think it has anything to do with unity. \*\*Obama says Republicans will use race to stoke fear By [Caren Bohan](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080620/pl_nm/usa_politics_obama_race_dc_1)\*\* **Fri Jun 20, 7:19 PM ET** **Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama said on Friday he expects Republicans to highlight the fact that he is black as part of an effort to make voters afraid of him.** **“It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy,” Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. "We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid.** \*\*“They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?” He said he was also set for Republicans to say “he’s got a feisty wife,” in trying to attack his wife Michelle.\*\* "We know the strategy because they’ve already shown their cards. **Ultimately I think the American people recognize that old stuff hasn’t moved us forward. That old stuff just divides us," he said.** Obama, born to a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya, has cast himself as a candidate who can bridge divides within the country, including those involving race. It has been rare for him to bring up the topic during his presidential bid. In March he gave a widely praised speech on the subject after receiving criticism over racially charged comments by his longtime pastor. Obama, who faces Republican John McCain in the November election, would be the first black U.S. president. ---
**Author:** ![klott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/klott/32/59_2.png) [@klott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/klott)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/8 "2008-06-21T22:24:42Z")
> [@relliott](#): > > Ken you are sounding very racist ,and should remove this post. > > I believe you are breaking forum rules and suggest you do so immediatly. It only sounds like that to you, because you have racist thinking. Isn’t Bob Barr black? Why don’t you call me a racist when I speak well of him? ---
**Author:** ![klott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/klott/32/59_2.png) [@klott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/klott)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/9 "2008-06-21T22:27:19Z")
Do these remarks by Obama sound racist Bob? Remember Malcom X? By any means neccessary? **From Dreams of My Father:** my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when Ibegan to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiatingmyself to whites.’ **From Dreams of My Father :** 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of _grievance_ and _animosity_ _ **against my mother’s race.** _ **From Dreams of My Father:** 'There was somethingabout him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white. **From Dreams of My Father:** 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names. **From Dreams of My Father:** ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’ **From Audacity of Hope:** \*\*I will stand with the Muslims _should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’_ ---
**Author:** ![mbazzo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mbazzo/32/57038_2.png) [@mbazzo](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mbazzo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/10 "2008-06-21T23:59:12Z")
> [@klott](#): > > Do these remarks by Obama sound racist Bob? I’m not Bob, but I will say no one should be surprised to hear the race card being played by a man who use to belonged to one of the largest black racist churches in the nation. it seems that after separating himself in an attempt to remove the dark cloud that hung over his head has proven to be nothing more than a smoke screen to gain votes. Obummers comments should be seen by American voters as his true self, change is a hard thing indeed ---
**Author:** ![klott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/klott/32/59_2.png) [@klott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/klott)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/11 "2008-06-22T00:04:58Z")
Why would anyone think he would do anything different than to blame all his critics as being racist, it is not the fact that he is black that concerns me, it is his own statements and his friends statements. Racism is not just something that is perpetuated by white people. But one thing I know is, it does not belong in the leadership of this country. ---
**Author:** ![klott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/klott/32/59_2.png) [@klott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/klott)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/12 "2008-06-22T00:11:52Z")
There will be change! By any means necessary! **X** ---
**Author:** ![mbazzo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mbazzo/32/57038_2.png) [@mbazzo](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mbazzo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/13 "2008-06-22T00:12:10Z")
That’s the reason he dumped reverend Wright, to distance himself from a known racist. then he’s gotta go play the race card, just like he was taught. wanna lose alotta white votes, play the race card, Caucasians are sick and tired of that old song. ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/14 "2008-06-22T03:19:01Z")
> [@klott](#): > > **What does it have to do with Southerners** , he makes more sense than anyone else running. But it will never happen. My thoughts on this have absolutely nothing to do with prejudice on my part, just the facts. **Isn’t Bob Barr black?** Because he’s from Georgia and the majority of the south isn’t to happy with McSame. He doesn’t look to black to me, but there’s a chance he has some in him. ---
**Author:** ![sstanczyk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sstanczyk/32/175851_2.png) [@sstanczyk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sstanczyk)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 5:21am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/15 "2008-06-22T05:21:14Z")
> [@klott](#): > > Do these remarks by Obama sound racist Bob? Remember Malcom X? By any means neccessary? **From Dreams of My Father:** > my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when Ibegan to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’ > > Actual quote from “Dreams from My Father” [pg. xv]: When people > who don’t know me well, black or white, discover my background (and it > is usually a discovery, for I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at > the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing > so I was ingratiating myself to whites), I see the split-second > adjustments they have to make, the searching of my eyes for some > telltale sign. They no longer know who I am. Privately, they guess at > my troubled heart, I suppose - the mixed blood, the divided soul, the > ghostly image of the tragic mulatto trapped between two worlds. And if > I were to explain that no, the tragedy is not mine, or at least not > mine alone, it is yours, sons and daughters of Plymouth Rock and Ellis > Island, it is yours, children of Africa, it is the tragedy of both my > wife’s six-year-old cousin and his white first grade classmates, so > that you need not guess at what troubles me, it’s on the nightly news > for all to see, and that if we could acknowledge at least that much > then the tragic cycle begins to break down…well, I suspect that I > sound incurably naive, wedded to lost hopes, like those Communists who > peddle their newspapers on the fringes of various college towns. Or > worse, I sound like I’m trying to hide from myself. > > On its own, the quote can be interpreted as Obama rejecting his white > heritage and, by extension, the entire white population. But, in full > context, the statement is part of Obama’s assessment of “black or > white” individuals’ first impressions of him as a person of mixed > race. > > **From Dreams of My Father :** > 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of _grievance_ and _animosity_ _ **against my mother’s race.** _ > > The popular urban legends reference site [Snopes.com](http://Snopes.com) comes to the same conclusion. Snopes also notes that a similar quote does appear in an unfavorable review of “Dreams from My Father” that was published in > the March 2007 issue of The American Conservative. But the words are > those of the reviewer, Steve Sailer, not Obama. > > ``` > Steve Sailer: He inherited his father?s penetrating intelligence; > > ``` > > was raised mostly by his loving liberal white grandparents in > multiracial, laid-back Hawaii, where America?s normal race rules never > applied; and received a superb private school education. And yet, at > least through age 33 when he wrote Dreams from My Father, he found > solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against > his mother?s race. > > **From Dreams of My Father:** > 'There was somethingabout him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white. > > Actual quote from “Dreams from My Father” [pgs. 141-142]: Now he was > trying to pull urban blacks and suburban whites together around a plan > to save manufacturing jobs in metropolitan Chicago. He needed somebody > to work with him, he said. Somebody black. … > > He offered to start me off at ten thousand dollars the first year, > with a two-thousand-dollar travel allowance to buy a car; the salary > would go up if things worked out. After he was gone, I took the long > way home, along the East River promenade, and tried to figure out what > to make of the man. He was smart, I decided. He seemed committed to > his work. Still, there was something about him that made me wary. A > little too sure of himself, maybe. And white - he’d said himself that > that was a problem. > > The e-mail’s edited quote makes it appear as if Obama is left with an > unfavorable opinion of someone based on race. The full quote shows > that Obama’s mention of Marty Kaufman’s race is made only after > Kaufman raises it as a potential problem in light of his consideration > to hire Obama for a job on a community organizing drive. > > Obama took the job. “Kaufman” is actually a pseudonym. Obama told > Chicago Sun-Times reporter Lynn Sweet that the man’s real name was > Gerald Kellman, who was Obama’s boss at his first job in Chicago as a > community organizer at the Calumet Community Religious Conference. > Obama worked for him for three years before going on to law school. > Kellman has said of Obama: “One of the remarkable things is how well > he listens to people who are opposed to him.” > > **From Dreams of My Father:** > 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names. > > Actual quote from “Dreams from My Father” [pg. 100-101]: To avoid > being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more > politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. > The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock > performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At > night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, > Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the > hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to > shake, we were resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints. We > weren’t indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But > this strategy alone couldn’t provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce > or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus > radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it > remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your > loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names. > > On its own, the quote makes Obama appear racially militant. Whereas, > in full context, the quote illustrates Obama’s confusion over his race > and cultural heritage. This is emphasized in the preceding paragraph, > where Obama describes himself as someone compensating for insecurity > in his “racial credentials.” > > **From Dreams of My Father:** > ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’ > > Actual quote from “Dreams from My Father” [pg. 220]: Yes, I’d seen > weakness in other men - Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his > compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I > might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates > didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, > son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, > the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela. And if later > I saw that the black men I knew - Frank or Ray or Will or Rafiq - fell > short of such lofty standards; if I had learned to respect these men > for the struggles they went through, recognizing them as my own - my > father’s voice had nevertheless remained untainted, inspiring, > rebuking, granting or withholding approval. You do not work hard > enough, Barry. You must help in your people’s struggle. Wake up, black > man! > > The e-mail cuts out important words, changing the quote’s meaning. > Gone is the notion that he “might love” white or brown men. Gone also > is that Obama was speaking not of white or brown men generally, but > specifically about “these men,” his white, maternal grandfather > Stanley Dunham and his Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro. The > doctored quote makes it appear as though Obama said he would never > emulate any white or brown man, based on their race. > > Gone as well is Obama’s admission that his black friends sometimes > “fell short of [the] lofty standards” of black role models like Martin > Luther King and Nelson Mandela. > > **From Audacity of Hope:** > \*\*I will stand with the Muslims \*should the political \*_winds shift in an ugly direction_.’ > > \*\*Actual quote from “The Audacity of Hope” [pg. 261]: Of course, not > all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy > pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani > Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of > detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have > shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded > that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; > they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means > something, that America has learned the right lessons from the > Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with > them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. > > Obama did not say he would side with “the Muslims,” which could easily > be read as meaning he would side with the world’s Muslim population > even if it meant working outside the best interests of the United > States. He said he would side with “them,” referring back to his > mention of immigrant communities and specifically to “Arab and > Pakistani Americans.” Furthermore, he was speaking of an “ugly > direction” like the mass internment of Japanese Americans. Ken, Don’t just believe the emails and posts you receive and then just repost them as if they are the truth. Do yourself a favor and look them up. It doesn’t take long. Ever notice that the original quotes never have a page number? That is so they can cut and paste and take things out of context. In the terminology of the day it is called swiftboating. ---
**Author:** ![gluck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gluck/32/1787_2.png) [@gluck](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gluck)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/16 "2008-06-22T13:49:43Z")
Perhaps the perspective of someone from outside the country might be helpful. It seems that you are about to elect a person based entirely on spin and optics. While the press in the United States does a great job of covering up Obama’s mistakes, misstatements and gaffs, it is becoming clear that he has an agenda that may not benefit all Americans. His associations and associates speak volumes about his hidden agenda and all Americans must look beyond the spin and the derogatory name calling ( “McSame”). Though you are electing an American President, please remember that you are also electing the leader of the free world. Make sure that you cast your vote for the candidate who has the capabilities and the experience to represent us all. ---
**Author:** ![jburkeson1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jburkeson1/32/328752_2.png) [@jburkeson1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jburkeson1)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/17 "2008-06-22T14:06:02Z")
> [@gluck](#): > > Make sure that you cast your vote for the candidate who has the capabilities and the experience to represent us all. Thanks for all your help mate, but Americans (not Canadians) decided months ago not to vote for best candidate (Ron Paul) leaving us instead to vote for the continuation of the Bush agenda through McCain (McSame) or [voting for something entirely different](http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5ve5NEOTDXM). ---
**Author:** ![nwagner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/nwagner/32/901_2.png) [@nwagner](https://forum.nachi.org/u/nwagner)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/18 "2008-06-22T14:10:55Z")
> [@klott](#): > > comes to be, will it be pay back time? We have already seen how Obama’s associates feel about white people, he went to a racist church for 20 years. Read [this](http://www.observer.com/2008/spike-lee-predicts-chocolate-city-under-obama) and think about it, who is the hope for and what will be the change? I don’t think it has anything to do with unity. It has been known for quite some time that Spike Lee is a racist like Jesse Jackson and the rest of the race-baiting profiteers. It is not the least bit suprising that he and the other for-profit black supremists are rallying behind the Democratic party candidate. And I am not the least bit shocked that the bigot would say something so rediculous in attempt to energize his ignorant followers. But please tell me Ken, why should I be paranoid about this empty dream about a “Chocolate City”? Big Willy Clinton was supposedly the black man’s friend, yet I don’t recall being ever being an oppessed honkey … It is disgusting how the electorial is littered with voters who are swayed by crap like this that is of the lowest common denominator. We will likely suffer under Obama due to misguided liberal policies and incompetence, not racism. But I guess it will take racism to energize the white supremist bloc behind McSame in the Bible Belt.:roll: ---
**Author:** ![klott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/klott/32/59_2.png) [@klott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/klott)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/19 "2008-06-22T15:25:08Z")
> [@ccurrins](#): > > Because he’s from Georgia and the majority of the south isn’t to happy with McSame. He doesn’t look to black to me, but there’s a chance he has some in him. Geography has nothing to do with it at all, Carter was the worst president ever. You’re right about Mc Cain though, don’t care for him. Bob Barr looks black for a reason, he is. We do not need a white or Black leader, we need a leader who would never even let race be an issue. Like I said color does not matter to me, I would vote for a Pink person, if they qualify to lead and have a track record to prove it, and truely has the best interest of the country in mind, instead of self. Since there is a shortage of this type in politics, all I can do is go with the closest. ---
**Author:** ![klott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/klott/32/59_2.png) [@klott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/klott)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409/20 "2008-06-22T15:42:32Z")
> [@nwagner](#): > > It has been known for quite some time that Spike Lee is a racist like Jesse Jackson and the rest of the race-baiting profiteers. It is not the least bit suprising that he and the other for-profit black supremists are rallying behind the Democratic party candidate. And I am not the least bit shocked that the bigot would say something so rediculous in attempt to energize his ignorant followers. But please tell me Ken, why should I be paranoid about this empty dream about a “Chocolate City”? Big Willy Clinton was supposedly the black man’s friend, yet I don’t recall being ever being an oppessed honkey …Give me a break. Slick Willy and the Democrats will use whoever they can to get into power. Do you really think Obama will be the only Black man in D.C. if he wins, maybe he will have a post for Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Reverend Wright or any number of the ones who constantly play the race issue. Just imagine what will happen, when he tries to push something through the House and Senate, the politicians will be afraid to go against him, because they will be labeled racist if they do so. You better open your eyes and look at all of the possible scenarios. > > It is disgusting how the electorial is littered with voters who are swayed by crap like this that is of the lowest common denominator. We will likely suffer under Obama due to misguided liberal policies and incompetence, not racism. But I guess it will take racism to energize the white supremist bloc behind McSame in the Bible Belt.:roll: \*\*Do you believe his pastor was racist or not? Do you really believe if Obama disagreed with that Churches beliefs and doctrine, he would have stayed for 20 years? You want to talk about being racist and biased? Look at what you just typed, you just stereotyped every white person in the South who disagrees with Obama or you as being a Church Going Racist White Supremist, I truly hope you stay away from the poles, you are too immature to be involved in such an important issue. :roll: \*\* [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/when-chocolate-city/29409.md?page=2)