# why re\[lace missing knock outs?

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [July 11, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954 "2008-07-11T00:21:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bgraham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bgraham/32/179260_2.png) [@bgraham](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bgraham)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/1 "2008-07-11T00:21:53Z")

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Two of these girls in the panel at todays inspection.

 ![jsw_p7100222b.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/7/e/7e82a29f5580a16bc38e4a923dd51c0d7315c0db.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Marc\_D.Shunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/marc_d.shunk/32/958_2.png) [@Marc\_D.Shunk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Marc_D.Shunk)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/2 "2008-07-11T01:00:03Z")

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Okay, what kind of spider is it?

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**Author:** ![Speedy\_Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Speedy\_Petey](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Speedy_Petey)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/3 "2008-07-11T02:11:59Z")

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Black Widow!!!

OUCH!

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Whitt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mike_whitt/32/1670_2.png) [@Mike\_Whitt](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Mike_Whitt)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/4 "2008-07-11T02:45:12Z")

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Black widows are notorious spiders identified by the colored, hourglass-shaped mark on their abdomens. Several species answer to the name, and they are found in temperate regions around the world.

This spider’s bite is much feared because its venom is reported to be 15 times stronger than a rattlesnake’s. In humans, bites produce muscle aches, nausea, and a paralysis of the diaphragm that can make breathing difficult; however, contrary to popular belief, most people who are bitten suffer no serious damage—let alone death. But bites can be fatal—usually to small children, the elderly, or the infirm. Fortunately, fatalities are fairly rare; the spiders are nonaggressive and bite only in self-defense, such as when someone accidentally sits on them.

The animals most at risk from the black widow’s bite are insects—and male black widow spiders. Females sometimes kill and eat their counterparts after mating in a macabre behavior that gave the insect its name. Black widows are solitary year-round except during this violent mating ritual.

[click here](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/black-widow-spider.jpg&imgrefurl=http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/bugs/black-widow-spider.html&h=324&w=470&sz=29&tbnid=LK3opz3sgdYJ::&tbnh=89&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dblack%2Bwidow&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=1)

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**Author:** ![jwicklander](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jwicklander/32/57038_2.png) [@jwicklander](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jwicklander)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/5 "2008-07-11T02:51:38Z")

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Cool… never actually seen one of those. Is it normal, as well, to see plants growing in your panels??😃

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**Author:** ![jpope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jpope/32/59425_2.png) [@jpope](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jpope)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/6 "2008-07-11T15:12:17Z")

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> [@jwicklander](#):
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> Cool… never actually seen one of those.

Really? Those things are almost as common as house-flys out here. I thought everyone had to deal with them. Go figure. . .

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**Author:** ![dedwards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e95f7d/32.png) [@dedwards](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dedwards)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/7 "2008-07-11T15:15:25Z")

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Same here, those and brown recluse. Ive squashed a slew of them.

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**Author:** ![jwilliams4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/278dde/32.png) [@jwilliams4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jwilliams4)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/8 "2008-07-11T20:23:26Z")

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[![](http://www.brownreclusespider.org/brown-spider-recluse.jpg) ](http://www.brownreclusespider.org/brown-spider-recluse.jpg)

[http://www.brownreclusespider.org/brown-recluse-spider-identification.htm](http://www.brownreclusespider.org/brown-recluse-spider-identification.htm)

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**Author:** ![brian\_winkle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@brian\_winkle](https://forum.nachi.org/u/brian_winkle)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/9 "2008-07-12T00:39:57Z")

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> [@jpope](#):
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> Really? Those things are almost as common as house-flys out here. I thought everyone had to deal with them. Go figure. . .

Same here. Once I had one walk across my hand.

Mike, the article didn’t mention another interesting fact, the egg sacs yield between 300 and 500 baby spiders each. When they are first born, they are all stretched out perfectly symetrically on a web, you just about need a magnifying glass to see them. They are a translucent white. Their only source of food at that point is each other. They eat each other until only the last of the strongest survive, about 2 or 3.

They are also fairly resistant to insect sprays, and residual sprays do not kill them. A blowtorch works quite well however.

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**Author:** ![mgault](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mgault/32/57038_2.png) [@mgault](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mgault)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/10 "2008-07-12T00:41:33Z")

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That one is a beauty, nice picture…

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**Author:** ![pdoane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/pdoane/32/909_2.png) [@pdoane](https://forum.nachi.org/u/pdoane)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/11 "2008-07-12T04:10:26Z")

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[http://greennature.com/gallery/spider-pictures/giant-house-spider.jpg](http://greennature.com/gallery/spider-pictures/giant-house-spider.jpg)

Hobo Spider in the North West

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Thorman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mark\_Thorman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Mark_Thorman)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:13am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/12 "2008-07-12T07:13:12Z")

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[![](http://www.instanthawaii.com/Images/Animals/cane1.jpg) ](http://www.instanthawaii.com/Images/Animals/cane1.jpg)

hawaii cane spider

[www.mauihomeinspections.com](http://www.mauihomeinspections.com)

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**Author:** ![fnewman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90db22/32.png) [@fnewman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/fnewman)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/13 "2008-07-25T18:16:55Z")

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This thread came to mind yesterday. I went to an open house in a new subdivision and in the utility room of a new house found one of those (black widow) already moved in !!

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**Author:** ![dedwards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e95f7d/32.png) [@dedwards](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dedwards)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/14 "2008-07-25T19:51:49Z")

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> [@Mark Thorman](#):
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> [http://www.instanthawaii.com/Images/Animals/cane1.jpg](http://www.instanthawaii.com/Images/Animals/cane1.jpg)
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> hawaii cane spider
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> [www.mauihomeinspections.com](http://www.mauihomeinspections.com)

Mike,  
When I lived in Hawaii, we didn’t have too much trouble with spiders but good grief the scorpions and man eating centipedes were always getting into the house.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Thorman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mark\_Thorman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Mark_Thorman)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/15 "2008-07-26T00:59:13Z")

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[![](http://hbs.bishopmuseum.org/good-bad/images/centipede.jpg) ](http://hbs.bishopmuseum.org/good-bad/images/centipede.jpg)

You mean this guy? I find them when doning a crawlspace.

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**Author:** ![dedwards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e95f7d/32.png) [@dedwards](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dedwards)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/16 "2008-07-26T02:10:01Z")

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Oh Yeah. that’s him and sorry for calling you Mike instead of Mark.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Thorman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mark\_Thorman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Mark_Thorman)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/17 "2008-07-26T02:33:22Z")

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No worries, I’ve been called alot worse. If you look closely its a female wrapped around 100’s of baby centipedes.

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**Author:** ![bgraham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bgraham/32/179260_2.png) [@bgraham](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bgraham)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/18 "2008-07-31T20:43:43Z")

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This may not be Texas but we can grow some ones too.

**Golden silk spider, _Nephila clavipes_**

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 ![jsw_p7290122.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/f/4/f4bccda051ff27f2fc1c668939335746640e41a8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Thorman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mark\_Thorman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Mark_Thorman)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 5:41am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/19 "2008-08-02T05:41:02Z")

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Bruce, is that thing as big as it looks in the picture?

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**Author:** ![bgraham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bgraham/32/179260_2.png) [@bgraham](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bgraham)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/why-re-lace-missing-knock-outs/29954/20 "2008-08-02T11:56:33Z")

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Yes, these girls are big. The males are less than 1/10 that size.

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