$300 discount for staples on Wind Mit

Your demise in this industry will occur, just like your last one.
I understand you have lifted yourself to a higher level though.
$75 from $70 winds.
Someone told me you already had your break.

You are a loser and will stay a loser.

You know nothing about me, what I do or what I have accomplished.

I’ll almost bet I have partied away more money in my youth then you have made in your whole sorry life.

And I’m still sitting in a paid off house on an island.

Crawl away worm.

Something else to be proud of! :roll:
Are you a specialist at that as well? :mrgreen:

Yeah because I had one hell of a great time while most of you were kissing realtors rears to make a few bucks. I traveled the world and had a bunch of fun. I did whatever I wanted for 25+ years whenever I wanted and with whatever i wanted. how many of you can say that? I still have something to show after all that as well. I still support my family and my wife raises my kid when I am not there. My kid has never seen one day of daycare. How many of you can say that?

I just happen to be in a slump at the moment but I assure you i will rise to the top again.

WOW whatta life to admire. We’re all very impressed.
Finish pounding your chest & go threaten someone on your way to the top. :roll:

Pound sand servant loser…

Seems to me if you made that much money you’re either very lousy financial person or you just like to live high on the hog. If that was me I would’ve saved enough for retirement already.

Some good reading material for understanding requirements for secondary water resistant barriers, enjoy:

2010 Florida Building Code, Existing Building: 611.7.2 Roof secondary water barrier for site-built single family residential structures.

A secondary water barrier shall be installed using one of the following methods when roof covering is removed and replaced:
1. In either HVHZ or Non-HVHZ regions: a) All joints in structural panel roof sheathing or decking shall be covered with a minimum 4 inch (102 mm) wide strip of self-adhering polymer modified bitumen tape applied directly to the sheathing or decking. The deck and self adhering polymer modified bitumen tape shall be covered with one of the underlayment systems approved for the particular roof covering to be applied to the roof. b) The entire roof deck shall be covered with an approved a sphalt impregnated 30# felt underlayment or approved synthetic underlayment installed with nails and tin-tabs in accordance with Sections R4402.7.2, R4402.7.3, or R4402.7.4 of the *Florida Building Code, Residential. *(No additional underlayment shall be required over the top of this sheet.) The synthetic underlayment shall be fastened in accordance with the manufacturer’s recommendations. 2. Outside the High Velocity Hurricane Zone: a) The entire roof deck shall be covered with an approved self-adhering polymer modified bitumen sheet meeting ASTM D 1970 or an approved self-adhering synthetic underlayment installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s installation instructions. No additional underlayment shall be required on top of this sheet for new installations. b) An underlayment system approved for the particular roof covering shall be applied with the following modification: (1) For roof slopes that require one layer of underlayment, a layer of approved asphalt impregnated ASTM D 226 Type I or Type II underlayment or approved synthetic underlayment shall be installed. The felt is to be fastened with 1 inch (25 mm) round plastic cap or metal cap nails, attached to a nailable deck in a grid pattern of 12 inches (305 mm) staggered between the overlaps, with 6-inch (152 mm) spacing at the overlaps. The synthetic underlayment shall be fastened in accordance with the manufacturer’s recommendations. (2) For roof slopes that require two layers of underlayment, an approved asphalt impregnated ASTM D 226 Type I or Type II underlayment shall be installed in a shingle–fashion and lapped 19 inch (483 mm) and fastened as described above. An approved synthetic underlayment shall be installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s installation instruction. (No additional underlayment shall be required over the top of this sheet.) **

Exceptions:** 1. Roof slopes < 2:12 having a continuous roof system shall be deemed to comply with Section 611.7.2 requirements for a secondary water barrier. 2. Clay and concrete tile roof systems installed as required by the *Florida Building Code *are deemed to comply with the requirements of Section 611.7.2 for Secondary Water Barriers.

Unfortunately, you do not get credit for the swr unless selection A is chosen. Which, it rarely is. Most have tar paper then peel and stick over it. Although in the real world and the building code, it is considered a secondary water barrier, it isn’t accepted by the insurance companies.

I wouldn’t be surprised…but the argument can be made that this qualifies(A or B) per the wording of the 1802 and the FBC. My 2 censt is the form isn’t worth the paper it’s writen on, in what world do 8D common nails provide a higher uplift than 6D ring-shank nails? Also, PBC adopted SSTD-10 in the mid-90’s yet they get no credit for design pressure until 2002. You can get credit for SSTD-12 impact protection…that was added in 1997. Inspectors don’t know how to properly present this information to the client, all this talk about “protecting one’s client” with the form goes right out the window if you don’t understand code requirements. The options listed on the form for credits are not the only avenues available to the inspector, there are other options.

The form, in this matter in particular, is in direct conflict with the building code. I have pointed this out to the OiR as well as Citizens. From what I hear, it isn’t going to get changed.

If the seams are not sealed, no swr credit…no matter how many layers you have.

Apparently, secondary has more than one meaning…:mrgreen:

Good thing the OIR is cooperative and always willing to clarify issues we have…:wink:

I perform maybe 4-5 WM’s a year, I would like to stop doing them altogether. It’s a little difficult to inspect a property and find 20-20 code violations…then give then credit for being “code compliant”. The 1802 is a transfer of liability…plain and simple.

I agree. The 1802 is a poorly worded document that has various opportunities for extensive liability. The case you and I know about is one of them. It has set a precedent. Others will follow.
Whoever devised this form, has little, to no understanding, of the English language, and certainly even less understanding of legal peril.

I have stated here repeatedly that the “shiners” are a blatant code violation, and yet, that is what determines “proper nailing”! The stupidity in that rationale is “mind bottling”!:mrgreen:

Can I ask why we as citizens accept and allow this and no one hardly complains other than me?

Because Mike, Ancient Chinese proverb. …you can’t fight city hall! !

That’s what is wrong with our current world :frowning:

Denial is not a river in Egypt…maybe complaining isn’t the best way to achieve our goals? The OIR doesn’t need to clrify the forms intent, it’s being determiend by the courts…and guess what? It’s a code compliance inspection! Always has been, always will be. Go back 10-15 years and review it’s origins, even further than that. I have reviewed all WM documents going back to the early 90’s, and I have witnessed the review of the documents used in the recent case as presented by the plaintiff’s attorney and expert witness. It’s intent has always been a code inspection, HI’s were not on the form unitl the late 2000’s, AFTER we were licensed. 4-points are a different story, it’s just a home inspection with exclusions.

Agreed! :mrgreen:

Yes it is! The case will not set precedence as it is sealed…it was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount…but the inspector did loose. Read the statutes of our licensing and forget opinion, theory, and overall word of mouth philosophies based on hearsay and a false understanding of our licensing.