…and I’ve built them for 25 years as a full time carpenter in a number of states. This is not submitting new plans, this is inspecting existing properties. That deck may not be perfect, but it is not dangerous.
Fine? Is that what I said? Cantilever? You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Family photo? They’ll all be in the kitchen which is the least formal room in the house.
So how does your great aunt define a “balcony”, Kevin?
Say what you want Kenton! I have less respect for what the certain individuals allow each day and for that fact build for 25 years saying it is just fine.
Chris is dead on and even building a horse barn with no weight on the roof would require 6x6 posts.
Even the deck guide from InterNachi says 6x6 posts in all but the lowest of decks. This does not qualify as the lowest of decks.
As for a balcony again it is defined as An area not designed for social areas but can resemble a deck and yes because it does not have a stairs could give the appearance as a balcony. For this deck I would agree because it should never be used as a place to socialize.
Kevin, I don’t really understand what you’re saying, but I back your right to say your piece. Over and out. -Kenton
I would say it really doesn’t matter whether one says “balcony” and another “deck”. The original poster said the following:
That trumps any name you want to call it by and any construction standard you want to quote. It is not stabile and is therefore not correct.
I got three pages for you to look at Kenton.
Pg 32,33 and 34 of the How to Perform Deck Inspections.
If this is true, then you would know the price difference between using a 6x6 post as aposed to a 4x4 is minimal and the deck should be braced so it doesn’t move when walked on. This contractor was “cheaping out” on this deck. I wouldn’t want my name associated to it, seems like you would?
What Cameron points out is definately a problem that needs correcting.
I thought to be defined as a balcony the structure had to be self supporting and; A balcony is supported on one side only and are cantilevered structures; A deck is supported on at least two opposing sides.
The deck/balcony in this thread relies on the building structure and the 4x4 post for support.
Neither of these links really define the structural difference between a balcony and a deck.
Nachi’s link does say: “A balcony is a platform that protrudes from the wall of an upper floor of a building”
Here’s one from a PE: What is the difference? A deck is supported on at least two opposing sides. A balcony is supported on one side only. Balconies are cantilevered structures.
The collapsed structure was attached to the rear wall on one side and by a column beam assembly on the opposite side, so it was a deck, not a balcony.
First link… scroll down…
**balcony **
1. a platform projecting from the wall of a building with a balustrade or railing along its outer edge, often with access from a door or window
2. a gallery in a theatre or auditorium, above the dress circle
3. US and Canadian any circle or gallery in a theatre or auditorium including the dress circle
Collins Discovery Encyclopedia, 1st edition © HarperCollins Publishers 2005
deck
/dɛk/ [Show Spelled[dek] [
Now can someone find me the Definition of Deck in a dictionary that tells me it is for lounging in the sun and having a party? Oh! and needs supported by 6"x6" posts. ;)noun Nautical . a. floorlike surface wholly or partially occupying one level of a hull, superstructure, or deckhouse, generally cambered, and often serving as a member for strengthening the structure of a vessel. the space between such a surface and the next such surface above: Our stateroom was on B deck. open platform suggesting an exposed deck of a ship. open, unroofed porch or platform extending from a house or other building. Compare sun deck. level, tier, or vertical section, as of a structure or machine. 2 ) . ](“http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html”)
Oops, Thanks, I didn’t scroll that far the first time.
So according to these definitions Kenton’s description at post 17 “This is a balcony, not a deck, since there was no stairway to the ground.” is incorrect.
Chris, Yes but boy was I confused (maybe not)
Here’s a couple of pics from recent home inspections deck- what do ya’ll think?
Joe, explain, pictures are too small.
Is that a “hanging” support post in photo #1?! LOL That’s rich!
I don’t find those quotes in my version of the 2009 IRC. Please clarify.
I don’t see anything about “deck posts” in the IRC. Here’s my book’s R402.1.2:
“R402.1.2 Wood treatment. All lumber and plywood shall be
pressure-preservative treated and dried after treatment in
accordance with AWPA U1 (Commodity Specification A, Use
Category 4B and Section 5.2), and shall bear the label of an
accredited agency. Where lumber and/or plywood is cut or
drilled after treatment, the treated surface shall be field treated
with copper naphthenate, the concentration of which shall contain
a minimum of 2 percent copper metal, by repeated brushing,
dipping or soaking until the wood absorbs no more
preservative.”
From the “Deck Guide”, 2009 edition, that you have referred to many times before.
Page 7 - http://www.awc.org/publications/DCA/DCA6/DCA6-09.pdf