Double lugging neutrals?

[ccurrins (Christopher Currins, CMI)]

@bgoodrich

I’ve double lugged every panel I’ve ever done. Hundreds if not thousands of panels and never failed one. What are you guys smoking? it has no effect on functionality whatsoever. Panel or sub panel it’s fine. Later the neutrals must be floated but you can still double stuff if they are 12 or smaller and must be the same guage per lug

It’s amateur handymen like you that help keep us employed. For that I’d like to say thank you.

[jmilby (Jim Milby)]

I guess you never read the label or a code book or were never taught the correct way to wire a panel.

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

The confusion behind double tapping neutral circuit conductors bus hole stems from ‘the fact that’ it wasn’t until 2002 that the NEC accepted a change to the code regarding double tapped/tapping neutrals.
Just to be clear.

[rmeier2 (Robert Meier)]

@bgoodrich

So all of you failed your jman test and couldn’t ever be a real electrician? I’ve double lugged every panel I’ve ever done. Hundreds if not thousands of panels and never failed one. What are you guys smoking? it has no effect on functionality whatsoever. Panel or sub panel it’s fine. Later the neutrals must be floated but you can still double stuff if they are 12 or smaller and must be the same guage per lug. But wow. Don’t listen to these morons.

Not sure where you’ve wired these hundreds or thousands of panels but if they’re in a location where they’re actually inspected based on the NEC then every one of them would fail. The guy who said this “I’ve double lugged every panel I’ve ever done” shouldn’t be calling any of us morons.

[srechkin (Simon Rechkin)]

Parks cousin from Ohio is here

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

That’s funny.
A non member should be banned for calling members morons.

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

@bgoodrich

But wow. Don’t listen to these morons.

" 408.41 Grounded Conductor Terminations. Each grounded conductor shall terminate within the panelboard in an individual terminal that is not also used for another conductor."

Now who’s is the moron …moron?

[jmilby (Jim Milby)]

Robert, it was in the listing requirements well before a direct cite in the NEC. Before that it was covered indirectly by Article 110 that states equipment shall be used as listed.