Free mold training in Toronto Canada

Local Inspection Issues Canadian Home Inspectors
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Pro-Labs is opening up a branch office in Toronto Ontario very shortly. To kick off the opening they have graciously offered to provide their mold course at no charge. The regular cost of this course is $99 US.

This is an eight-hour certification class. In this class you will learn:

  • Mold Identification
  • How To Test For Mold
  • Indoor Air Quality Testing
  • How To Market Your Mold Business

This educational opportunity is open to all.

This class is taught by Doug Caprio from PRO-LAB®. Please contact **Doug **with any questions you have pertaining to the mold certification at dcaprio@reliablelab.com or call 800.427.0550 ext. 233

If you with to take advantage of this great opportunity please RSVP to myself as soon as possible so that your spot can be reserved.

Particulars
Date: Sept 2, 2006. If there is enough demand for the course additional dates may be set.
Location: Near the Airport. Exact location TBA
Cost: $0.00

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Great Paul I expect our NACHI Membership Number be required .
Thanks …Roy Cooke sr

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Certainly this will qualify for NACHI CE credits but the offer from ProLabs is not limited to NACHI members. I actually set it up for another smaller organization but all are welcome. So the NACHI ID number isn’t really needed this time.

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Paul,
you might want to re-evaluate Sept.2nd as the seminar date since it is the last long weekend of summer. You may not get the desired turn out.
Wolf

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Well then it should be a fairly slow day for home inspections for most inspectors allowing them not to miss much work.

The Sept 2nd date was set by Pro Labs based on their training schedule not mine.

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bump

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Just remember here in Canada it’s mould not mold. Doug

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Being on a long week end can have its advantages no traffic lots of hotel rooms if needed a chance to Bring your partner and see southern Ontario.
If any are coming from the USA this could be a great chance to see Niagara Falls ( you can never get tired see the falls ).
Toronto has so many things to see 3 days is not enough .
Being free is another great deal.
Remember this is open to all who wish to learn .
Come and meet some great home inspectors and those from other areas.

( Paul Hinsperger hinsperg@allstream.net )

Thanks Paul…Roy Cooke sr

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There has been great response to this course. A realtor may be hard pressed to find anyone in Ontario to do an inspection on Sept 2nd :wink:

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I am glad to hear of the great response and free seminar. Some may want to also consider the following in the future. http://www.iaq-qai.com/english/

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I have taken two of there courses and was no overly impressed two different Scientists? one said Javex to kill mould another said no way javex does not touch mould . Much of what was taught when I took the courses is available for free on the net and you are not traveling a long way to pay big dollars.

Look close before you leap.

Claude how long since you took this course.
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Talking about looking close before you leap - does a one day information seminar make one an expert? Not that the 3 day does either, without the addition in field performance verfications by an objective third party.

Personally, I do not believe in taking on the extra risk! I would rather leave that to those that are “specialists and experts” in this matter, and defer that diagnostic evaluation to them. It does not take a lot of education to realize from various clues when mould is present in a home.

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And where did I say taking a one day expert makes me an expert .
A one day course does add to my knowledge and this is exactly what I want to do .
All knowledge is just gained one step at a time or one day after another.
Unfortunately many can not afford the exorbitant Dollars some charge for their courses.
I think it is great that NACHI and others give out courses and education for free or low cost.
These all improve the home inspection industry with out costing so much money that members just give up and go into other means of making a living.
Some in home inspection industry seam to get so many to take courses that cost much and we eventually loose a lot of our future good home inspectors .
It is sad a very very small % of home inspectors do not last 5 years because the cost to succeed has broke them.
At 4:00 am this morning we had 3 members and 33 guests and right now we have **29 members and 15 guests
**Most users ever online was 323, 5/6/06 at 9:30 PM.
Fantastic Thank You NACHI.
I can fly to Colorado take a course and fly home frequently cheaper then I can go to Toronto to take a course put on by a non NACHI.
I went to Florida for the NACHI Conference for a lot less then the cost of
doing the Whistler conference and learned many important things I can use
.
Roy

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Hey Roy - that message was not personally directed at you! It was a general comment. :slight_smile:

However, my point being that some may “assume” they are instant experts based on a one day seminar on the topic.

Certainly I commend “any” organization, group or person that offers “free” education and training opportunities for inspectors to learn more.

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Although general mould identification is part of this course, I suspect the most valuable (esp in a court room) part of this course will be how to properly gather a mold sample use a scientifically acceptable process. The lab does the actual identification.

All knowlegde is good. What you do with that knowledge is another matter.

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I do not believe it’s our responsibility to identify the species of mould.
I do believe it is our responsibility to report on the presence of mould and any conditions present that provide for the growth of mould.
Any inspector that can not recognize mould and/or the conditions that promote the growth of mould is doing a disservice to his client.
If he does not have the where with all to flag the presence or possibility of mould presence is not doing his job and should learn this or get out of the business.

I’ve been told that Enron stopped selling home inspector insurance because they got hammered over a house inspector that did not report the presence of mould in the house. We all are suffering from that. Increased insurance rates etc.

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The following news item reported by Global TV illustrates the seriousness of reporting mould. Unfortunately this house was not inspected before purchase.

The orginal is posted at http://www.canada.com/globaltv/edmon...9-fb82eddbcdb4](http://www.canada.com/globaltv/edmonton/info/troubleshooter/story.html?id=6a80e16e-b165-4d2f-b1d9-fb82eddbcdb4)

HOMELESS HOMEOWNERS
Kendra SlugoskiGlobal Edmonton
Tuesday, August 01, 2006

Steve and Norma Dima shelled out $264,000 for their new home, but now they have nowhere to live. The Stony Plain couple is facing a fierce battle - taking on a toxic mould they discovered soon after they moved into their new home.

Norma Dima says, “We’ve lost everything. We have nothing.”

The Dimas have now been forced to live under a tarp over a picnic table. Across the yard is the empty house they recently purchased. “It’s the house of horrors.”

And they want to warn other home buyers, saying it pays to have a home inspected before moving in.
“When Steve comes home with the van, we sleep in the back. We’re trying to cope… we’re trying to keep going.”

The Dimas didn’t get a home inspection before buying the home. They moved in on the May long weekend. But soon after, the family started getting sick. That’s when Capital Health found mould, and lots of it.

Norma says they were told to “better get a home inspection, so we did that. That’s when we found out we had 99.9% moisture in the house.”

Everything, even the dishes had to be left inside. Norma spends her days looking for a way out of this mess, and is trying to get their money back.

Denis Noel, a real estate lawyer, says, “About the only remedy purchasers in a case like that would have is to sue the vendor.”

But that’s only if they can prove the seller knew about the mould. Legally, any home health risk must be revealed to a buyer. It’s a case of buyer beware, and Noel says about half of home buyers, still don’t bother getting an inspection. “I think most people are not experts in house construction, and do not know what to look for. An expert inspector will certainly catch the most obvious things.”

That’s why the Dimas are speaking out. They don’t want any other family to have no place to go. Norma says, “Oh boy - be smarter than us. Be a lot smarter and get this home inspection. I don’t care what the house is or where it is, but spend the $300, $400, or $500 and get this. That’s the only safeguard you’ve got.”

Steve and Norma are now looking for an apartment to rent. They have two sons who are staying with a family member. Norma is also waiting to hear from her doctor, to find out if she’s facing any long term health problems from the mould.

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The following news item reported by Global TV illustrates the seriousness of reporting mould. Unfortunately this house was not inspected before purchase.It is posted at http://www.canada.com/globaltv/edmon...9-fb82eddbcdb4](http://www.canada.com/globaltv/edmonton/info/troubleshooter/story.html?id=6a80e16e-b165-4d2f-b1d9-fb82eddbcdb4)

HOMELESS HOMEOWNERS

Kendra Slugoski
Global Edmonton

Tuesday, August 01, 2006

Steve and Norma Dima shelled out $264,000 for their new home, but now they have nowhere to live. The Stony Plain couple is facing a fierce battle - taking on a toxic mould they discovered soon after they moved into their new home.
Norma Dima says, “We’ve lost everything. We have nothing.”
The Dimas have now been forced to live under a tarp over a picnic table. Across the yard is the empty house they recently purchased. “It’s the house of horrors.”
And they want to warn other home buyers, saying it pays to have a home inspected before moving in.
“When Steve comes home with the van, we sleep in the back. We’re trying to cope… we’re trying to keep going.”
The Dimas didn’t get a home inspection before buying the home. They moved in on the May long weekend. But soon after, the family started getting sick. That’s when Capital Health found mould, and lots of it.
Norma says they were told to “better get a home inspection, so we did that. That’s when we found out we had 99.9% moisture in the house.”
Everything, even the dishes had to be left inside. Norma spends her days looking for a way out of this mess, and is trying to get their money back.
Denis Noel, a real estate lawyer, says, “About the only remedy purchasers in a case like that would have is to sue the vendor.”
But that’s only if they can prove the seller knew about the mould. Legally, any home health risk must be revealed to a buyer. It’s a case of buyer beware, and Noel says about half of home buyers, still don’t bother getting an inspection. “I think most people are not experts in house construction, and do not know what to look for. An expert inspector will certainly catch the most obvious things.”
That’s why the Dimas are speaking out. They don’t want any other family to have no place to go. Norma says, “Oh boy - be smarter than us. Be a lot smarter and get this home inspection. I don’t care what the house is or where it is, but spend the $300, $400, or $500 and get this. That’s the only safeguard you’ve got.”
Steve and Norma are now looking for an apartment to rent. They have two sons who are staying with a family member. Norma is also waiting to hear from her doctor, to find out if she’s facing any long term health problems from the mould.

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In the past it has been very difficult to obtain insurance coverage for home inspectors that include evaluating mould. How is the experience with others out there? Now couple that and those news nightmares with the possibility of some inspector that ends up with a claim against them for mould.

If there was 99.9% moisture in the home - would it not make sense someone should have noticed the visual clues of such amount? Regardless if they were a home inspector or not! I am not trying to diminish the issue but at that rate the clues should have been very obvious.

So education is YES, educating yourself about mould even BETTER, but if an inspector’s disclaimer and the SOP steers clear of mould, I would rather simply follow the SOP and practice due diligence! To me it’s less risk.

BTW: The insurer was ENCON. But that was one of many reasons for dropping the coverage for home inspectors.

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I believe that most if not all Inspector Insurance Comanies have a disclaimer in the pollicy that covers many things they do not insure for . I wonder what the difference is with the disclaimers in the HIs pollicy is to the disclaimers I put in my contract.
At least John Q can read my disclaimer but John Q would have no idea that the Home Inspector has no insurance for mould ,Rust , smut ,and what ever else the Insurance companies can think up .
I write in ever report suspect possible mould ?

Roy Cooke sr .
Incidental I do not think there is a home any where in Ontario that does not have mould spores in it and I would take any bets with big odds .

Roy Cooke Sr.