Handrails ???

Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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I have been through IRC and other codes but can't find the answer ![icon_redface.gif](upload://f7DX2EWhmUfsDapWaYT3oJHMCj1.gif)

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Originally Posted By: ltrower
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Gerry,


The width for a double handrail is 48". I will try and find the info. on it and post it when I get it.

Lee Trower


Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi Lee,


yes that's what I think but can't find any evidence to support it ![icon_confused.gif](upload://qv5zppiN69qCk2Y6JzaFYhrff8S.gif)

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Originally Posted By: jpeck
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In dwelling units, only one handrail is required by all the codes I’ve seen. Regardless of the width of the stairway.


Some codes state that the width of a stairway cannot decrease in width in the direction toward the egress, but the 2003 IRC does not address this (at least I have not seen it in there).


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Originally Posted By: jburnell
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Gerry


You only need 1 handrail according to the IRC (unless I’m missing something), but your local AHJ might have added more restrictive codes.


You would need guards on both sides if over 30" high, but only 1 handrail.


John


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http://www.fiorentinilaw.com/articles/safety_code_provisions_in_slip_a.html






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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi Dave,


I looked at that site but Massachusetts building code (780 CMR section 1022.0 and 3603.14) both of which cover stairs and handrails do not mention it. I know that the 48" rule is code somewhere but I just can't remember where I saw it.

the 44" rule was a City of Haverhill "blue book" rule until the adoption of state codes in 1969 any may have still been in effect until 1975 acording to the link that you found.

Thanks

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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It may be different up there in sunny MAss, but down here in NY it’s 1 handrail.



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Originally Posted By: dvalley
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opinion.


Or are you a notorious code citing guru?![](upload://dT7PXS8lZhpuVS6c8qAaMebqRVH.gif)


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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi Dave,


no it’s not a real big issue, and I’m not turning into a code guru anytime soon, the handrail question turned up in another forum, and whilst I thought the 48" rule applied in most areas when I checked IRC I could not find it, but I knew I had read it some where.


No biggy I just hate not being right ALL the time ![icon_confused.gif](upload://qv5zppiN69qCk2Y6JzaFYhrff8S.gif) ![icon_confused.gif](upload://qv5zppiN69qCk2Y6JzaFYhrff8S.gif)

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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It was one of the questions on the NHIE when I took it. icon_evil.gif


Originally Posted By: janderson
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  1. Stairways less than 44 inches serving one individual dwelling unit

  2. Private stairways 30 inches or less

  3. Stairways having less than four risers


As you already noted, there is nothing in the IRC about this. However, if you look in section 1003.3.3.11 of the 2000 IBC you will see that handrails are required on both sides. However, as most of us may know, the IBC requirements are applied to commercial buildings, not single family.

Hope this helps. ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif)


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Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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A couple of things. First: Dwelling unit stairs generally need only one handrail, 34"-38" above the tangent line of the riser. Commercial buildings need two handrails unless you meet one of very few exceptions.


Second: I am not an HI, but rather a city inspector. I notice in this thread that some people have been discussing "code gurus". I don't consider myself to be a guru on anything. Anyway, at this site is it common to not recite code, or do we just recite opinion?


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Originally Posted By: dfrend
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Since we are not the AHJ, HI’s should not cite code. We should begiving opinions, which may be based on code. But with variances in codes in any given inspectors areas, we are not code officials. We do often look at code to reference any questions we may have, so a knowledge is good.



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Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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Thanks for the input Daniel, again, I wasn’t sure how to post here, as to whether we are asking about codes or just good ideas. icon_smile.gif



Ryan Jackson, Salt Lake City

Originally Posted By: jpeck
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In Dwelling Units, one handrail on one side. Two handrails are not required (in Dwelling Units).



Jerry Peck


South Florida