Illegal Recessed Incandescent Fixtures

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Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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Listed means that the product has been tested by a nationally recognized testing labotatory.


Approved means accpetable to the athourity having jurisdiction (inspector or other).

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Ryan Jackson, Salt Lake City

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Originally Posted By: John Bowman
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All Right,


Are there any Cannister Lights sold in the U.S. that are not listed or approved by the AHJ?

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Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Dear Inspector Bowman:


The information you received was not correct! I researched the entire UL Directory and found as many as 97 difference areas where "lights" are required to be listed, such as Pool Lights, Exit Lights, etc.

Mr Bowman: I simply wanted to inform you that use of the words: "UL Approved" are not recognized by the electrical industry, and the therm "Qualified" electrical testing laboratory relates to a well known rule in a document published by the NFPA.

That document is known as NFPA 70, "National Electrical Code" better knows as the NEC.


Here is a copy of the rule mentioned:

Quote:
90.7 Examination of Equipment for Safety.

For specific items of equipment and materials referred to in this Code, examinations for safety made under standard conditions provide a basis for approval where the record is made generally available through promulgation by organizations properly equipped and qualified for experimental testing, inspections of the run of goods at factories, and service-value determination through field inspections.

This avoids the necessity for repetition of examinations by different examiners, frequently with inadequate facilities for such work, and the confusion that would result from conflicting reports on the suitability of devices and materials examined for a given purpose.

It is the intent of this Code that factory-installed internal wiring or the construction of equipment need not be inspected at the time of installation of the equipment, except to detect alterations or damage, if the equipment has been listed by a qualified electrical testing laboratory that is recognized as having the facilities described in the preceding paragraph and that requires suitability for installation in accordance with this Code.

FPN No. 1: See requirements in 110.3.

FPN No. 2: Listed is defined in Article 100.

FPN No. 3: Annex A contains an informative list of product safety standards for electrical equipment.


Please feel free to contact me directly whenever you are sideswiped by other persons in the field.

Sincerely,

--
Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Ryan:


Please refer to the definition of the term Listed in Article 100:

"NRTL's" do not come into the discussion unless OSHA is involved.

Quote:
Listed. Equipment, materials, or services included in a list published by an organization that is acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction and concerned with evaluation of products or services, that maintains periodic inspection of production of listed equipment or materials or periodic evaluation of services, and whose listing states that the equipment, material, or services either meets appropriate designated standards or has been tested and found suitable for a specified purpose.

FPN: The means for identifying listed equipment may vary for each organization concerned with product evaluation, some of which do not recognize equipment as listed unless it is also labeled. Use of the system employed by the listing organization allows the authority having jurisdiction to identify a listed product.


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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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This is a ‘non-IC’ rated can. icon_lol.gif


PS I like the vent holes.

Mike P.