Thought this topic might be better explained like this.
With proper equipment and training, you can provide additional value to your clients, hence your fees/revenue. Infrared inspections, performed properly will offset your costs for said equipment and training…
If the cheapest way to get in the door is sought, I would imagine the results would probably match the effort and outlay.
Thanks for the link Bob. Wasn’t aware that even existed.
Bert
mauger
(Mike Auger, CMI - RI 43685, RMC-142, RMB-096)
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I watched the video and looked at the specs on it, I suppose its an upgrade from the IR thermometer and provides better info than that. But there are items “missing” off the specs sheet when compared to other thermographic imagers. Sensitivity, image resolution to name two.
It does not appear that you could get the same sensitivity and resolution of your heat signature images from this device, so using it to replace other IR cameras may not be prudent, but replacing your IR thermometer, I suppose, but it seems a bit expensive to get some “WOW” pictures?
Use as an addition to your HI, sure.
Use as true thermography reporting tool, probably no.
The idea that this tool would be used to perform an IR inspection is a big fat joke. On the other hand, the idea that one must own an IR camera to properly interpret temp readings is just as wrong. This is a “more power” thermometer, not an IR camera. It has its applications and the visual would give a little more perspective than just a plain IR thermometer. Why anyone would drop a grand on this baby when it probably produces an image the size of a postage stamp is beyond me. Take note of the images all the advertising uses to promote it. They aren’t exactly HD.
So in your opinion it will not effectively show temp differential in broad areas ?
Will not show areas of wall missing insulation ?
Will not show areas where radiant heat is not functioning ?
Will not be able to tell if a toilet or shower wall are wet ?
All of the above are lies by FLIR in your opinion ?
Perhaps I could send a copy of this thread to someone over there and see if that might be true.
Bear in mind high res is not needed to find suspect areas and high res may not be needed to simply see a warming of needing a moisture meter confirmation.
It’s an expensive thermometer with a color screen. The thermal sensitivity of the thermometer is horrible (<250mk) compared to the cheapest IR cameras on the market. You would have a large Delta T detect any anomalies. Not worth it. Here is a comparison of thermal sensitivities of IR cameras:
OK so basically it will not detect temp difference in wet surfaces or show individual sections of tubes in the floor for radiant heat or electric ceil heat enough to indicate failure ?
Got ya.
Will need to see if they have it at that Graybar place in Glendale hts if I go out to look.
Supposedly they have a display of Flir products…
mauger
(Mike Auger, CMI - RI 43685, RMC-142, RMB-096)
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heat signature imaging looks “real fuzzy” perhaps too fuzzy for accuracy, that being said I have not had any classroom training and not earned a lev 1 thermographer etc…so i may be off here, just from what I can see, if you’re spending 1000, why not get the Ti9, or the Ti100 for like 2800? and have a much better tool?
I agree it might do some of those things, just not very well for the price point. I can use my hammer to install screws, doesn’t mean it’s a good screw driver.
So if the wet surface is exposed to sunlight, will it appear cooler as a result of evaporative cooling. Will a puddle reflect heat from the sun or show as a cool area due to evaporative cooling? Hmmmmm
I think it’s a safe assumption that Bob would not be confirming the presence of moisture in a warm reflecting puddle with his moisture meter, as he stated. I would bet he was imagining a surface with possible moisture behind it.
I do get your point though, there’s no absolutes. I’ll be better equipped to answer those kinds of question and make those evaluations after Level I.
Ok, now I can’t get the image of Bob checking a puddle with his moisture meter out of my head. :mrgreen: LOL Somebody needs to make a graphic of that immediately!
The answer is here. Read over and over and over again, eventually you will get it… or you won’t.
If you don’t have an understanding of building science and simple physics and heat transfer, just buy the $900 thermometer, get NACHI IR certified for $500 and sell yourself as a NACHI Certified Infrared specialist. Many do.