Rafter separation from ridge beam


I found this on a low slope roof.
Is the slope too low for rafter ties?

And that brace is loaded onto a masonry wall?

I saw Simpson RR Connectors in another post, would that work here?

Thanks

I see that the rafters are perpendicular to the ceiling joists.

Are you in snow country?

Was there bowing on the walls where the rafter tails are seated?

Report what you see and refer it out to a qualified contractor.

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There’s been some shift there. All the gaps are on the right side. Write it up.

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It could have been that way since day one, shorty craftsmanship. :thinking:

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I see gaps on both sides. The way the photo was taken makes it a bit harder to see some on the left side.

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Yes, that was my first thought.

Daniel, if the ceiling joists are not tied into the rafters, there is nothing to prevent wall spread. (The ceiling joists should be the rafter ties)
Which could explain the gaps.

Do you have pics of the exterior? Just curious about load bearing issues

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Larry you nailed it.
Where the rafter ties???
When ceiling joists run perpendicular to roof rafters, rafter ties should be in- stalled to resist the thrust that the rafters exert on the exterior walls .

In most situations I look for bowed walls.

What is the type of insulation, Daniel?


This house is in central florida.
This is a better picture. They are actually installed the right way.
So the fix would be Simpson RR brackets and collar ties?

Says who?

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As Scott implied, report what you see and refer it out to a qualified contractor because what if YOUR fix doesn’t work?..YOU may have to pay to correct it the “right” way.

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Thanks guys.
This was from a mock inspection I did for Internachi.
He already bought the house and an inspection was done. I’m going to try to get the report.
In the meantime i’m going to recommend to him to contact his real estate agent.
There were some other issues I found with the electric too.
Need to see if any of this was in the report.

Why, exactly?
He should be contacting his Home Inspector for a discussion.

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And he shouldn’t even do that until he verifies if this stuff was in the report, including any attic access limitations noted.

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For sure. I would be careful with these gotcha moments from and inspector who has not even produced his first real world inspection/report.

On other notes. Scott is bringing some balance to the situation. These rafters are not an OMG moment.

And a good point about prescribing cures.

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I really appreciate all the feedback.

Is there any low roof pitch where collar ties are not needed?
It seems as the ridge beam drops with the slope it would be a hard time getting a collar tie on the upper 1/3 of the rafters.

Here is the difference between collar ties and rafter ties, Daniel:

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You seem to be intent on a cure or just maybe a better understanding. There may be multiple ways to address this issue depending on how the roof and connecting systems were performing (which may include doing nothing). Did you walk this roof? How about the sidewalls or ceilings? More information is needed.

Collar Ties vs. Rafter Ties - InterNACHI®

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It looks like rafters were lifted from a 12/12 position to a ~ 3/12 position.

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Choosing the repair method is dangerous. Don’t do that professionally.