Validity of Certified Mould Inspectors - Snake Oil Salesmen??

[jbraun (James E. Braun, CMI)]

@mlarson

I did not.

Mike please give me your definition of “affected” that was in the other post you made. I am confused what you are saying.

[jbraun (James E. Braun, CMI)]

@mlarson

Its a simple thing. Show us Connells statements

Kapiche?

That post is for Cameron, not you. Sorry about that.

Anyway, I already showed everybody the statement about no mold education. Either he secretly has mold education, or he is a hypocrite by making that statement.

[jbraun (James E. Braun, CMI)]

@canderson5

Testing is rarely needed and is fraught with potential error due to environmental conditions, personal interpretation of the samples, personal interpretation of the testing results, inadequate controls, and a host of other issues.

The same thing can be said about radon testing too, so your point is?

[rcooke (Roy D. Cooke, Sr)]

@jbraun

Either Connell is right about mold or not. You cannot say he is, but plea the fifth when asked about one of his opinions.

And I refuse to allow you to try and change what I said .
We also do not have the fifth in Canada .

[rcooke (Roy D. Cooke, Sr)]

@nthornberry

That is awesome. You’re a funny guy Roy.

Thanks

B.S. baffles some of the people some of the time but it does not Baffle all the people all the time .
To me this string sure seems to have more B.S. then some others strings.
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[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@jbraun

That post is for Cameron, not you. Sorry about that.

Anyway, I already showed everybody the statement about no mold education. Either he secretly has mold education, or he is a hypocrite by making that statement.

You reporting what he said and seeing it in his post are not the same.

Cameron could not find what you stated in the links you gave him.

[jbraun (James E. Braun, CMI)]

@mlarson

You reporting what he said and seeing it in his post are not the same.

Cameron could not find what you stated in the links you gave him.

Somebody cannot bad mouth my Industrial Hygienist successfully for having mold education, but then actually have mold education himself. That argument is too bizarre.:shock:

[jbraun (James E. Braun, CMI)]

@rcooke

And I refuse to allow you to try and change what I said .
We also do not have the fifth in Canada .

Where did I change what you said?

[rcooke (Roy D. Cooke, Sr)]

@nthornberry

Alright Roy, I’m going to discuss this with you in this forum, because you like the guy who wrote the article, you’re reasonable, and Juan posted the question about an educated rebuttal, so help me out with something.

Let’s say there’s a house for sale, you inspect it, you see visible mold or what “appears to be mold growth” or whatever you say when you come across it.

B. Having a definitive surface test to hand to the sellers and request proper mold remediation, with the “mold test” results in hand.
…I do not need a surface test as there is mould spores in all homes .
Some more than others .
I some all day courses where CMHC had two seminars Many Many years ago the morning teacher said Rugs where bad for allergies as they held the dust and Tile/hardwood was the best for those with allergies .
This scientist also said for mould javex was the best to clean it up.
Afternoon teacher said javex does not touch mould and we should use soap and water .
Also Rugs Trapped the dust and Tile/hard wood transferred the dust into the air .
Both educated people different methods .
How was I as a Home Inspector going to make a educated decision when two scientists’ did not agree .
I do know both Char and I non smokers can report this home has much Mould and it needs to be fixed.
Do you see what I’m getting at? I’m okay with much of what the article says, I’m just looking at it from the context of the real estate transaction and it’s my position that mold test results encourage the appropriate action.
Your thoughts, Roy?

My thoughts are we have too many who feel they are experts on MOULD making decisions that I expect some day someone is going to pay big time .

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[ldapkus1]

Thanks for chiming in Mr. Connell. It’s nice to see you again. As you can see, braun and thornberry are mold experts in their own minds. thornberry is new vendor here, he has lots of money, here is his bio:
http://www.theankerconsultinggroup.com/thornberry.php

[rcooke (Roy D. Cooke, Sr)]

@nthornberry

Okay, again, you’ve seen the mold, you can tell it’s mold, but as we both know the weekend handyman can cause a lot of problems when dealing with environmental issues.

I walked into a house one time I was quoting a room addition and new roof on- multi-million dollar house- I walk in the front door and they had their handyman there tearing up a floor. Family of four lives in the house. Based on the age of the house, and the type of floor, I knew there was a very good chance that it was asbestos.

Even with the future health of their children hanging in the balance, it took me taking a sample to the lab before they would hire the appropriate professional to remove it.

With mold, we have the same issue- only it’s much more common. You see mold, I see mold, seller’s handyman thinks he’s an expert. A mold test, while you may question its validity, gives both sides the notice necessary to take the appropriate precautions even when it is painfully obvious.

Do you see the mold test as valuable in this context Roy?

We all know all homes have mould why do we need to confirm what is already obvious .
As said earlier I have taken too many courses and a I feel I am far from an expert.
Why should I allow myself to get involved with something even the well trained experts frequently do not agree on .

[ldapkus1]

@nthornberry

Linas’ alias is “Alan”. He’s actually Brittish. Here’s his bio:

http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/1072-man-banned-from-having-sex-has-48-iq-lowest-ever.html

Couldn’t resist Linas :mrgreen:

When is the last time you had sex?..with a woman

[rcooke (Roy D. Cooke, Sr)]

@nthornberry

Good question. And I’m asking this sincerely…

Do all the experts agree on the process of remediation? Or do some of them think bleach and the rag of a handyman is okay?

I do not think all experts agree on remediation
Depending on how serious the contamination is it could be total destruction,to removing the interior to Proper chemical cleaning to blasting with dry ice ( bleach is never an cleaning method)