Thankfully Braun, I feel no compulsion to prove myself to you. Nice try though. Now, where is that evidence where Mr. Connell claims he has no education in mold? You haven’t posted any yet and we are all waiting.
Read back on my threads. It is all explain in the threads. But basically. what Connell says mold testing is not absolute so mold does not cause health effects. But he does point out to other testing in other fields are not absolute. Using his logic, radon testing is sudoscience also.
There is no real mold training being conducted that mold testing is the end of all. Only the uneducated believe claim this. There is a lot more to a mold assessment is wayore than just testing. I posted in IAC2 section about a basic online class that explained this quite well. I suggested that you go back and read my threads on mold. All of the answers are there. I just do not have the time, like i use to, to teach about proper testing again and again.
I had a teacher once tell me, if you cannot put the subject you are talking about in simple terms, you do mot know the subject.
Sorry Jim, but we’d like to see in Connell’s words, not your perception of them.
I love our debates.:rolleyes: I provide the facts, and you deny them; and then when I ask you to prove your point, you claim you do not need to provide anything.
Its a simple thing. Show us Connells statements
Kapiche?
Posts #39, #40, and #44. Ironically, you are the one that posted a curriculum full of mold related courses for industrial hygienists.
By the way, do you know what microbiology is?
That’s Braun’s dilemma Juan. He calls Mr. Connell names but can’t refute him. Connell may not always be sweet and gentle in his delivery, but he knows his stuff and has years of experience to back it up. I personally don’t believe there is a rebuttal. Testing is rarely needed and is fraught with potential error due to environmental conditions, personal interpretation of the samples, personal interpretation of the testing results, inadequate controls, and a host of other issues.
A visual inspection is more than adequate the majority of the time.
I have not comunicated with Caoimhín for a long time .
He was a big help to me many years ago and I think he a very smart person on Moulds and the health industry.
If I need info he is one I would go to instantly , I have talked to many others who also feel he is the perfect person to go too for information.
So Roy, do you actually believe Connell, that mold does not cause health effects?
I know Larson use to think that, but not no more.
Not my decesion to make I am not an expert.
I do know with out mould we could never walk in the woods .
I never thought that despite your claim.
Susceptible persons can be affected by mold but most people are not.
Should I Have My Home Tested for Mold?
Testing for mold is difficult, time-consuming, and expensive. The Illinois Department of Public Health does not currently recommend mold testing since there are no standards about how much mold is acceptable, and testing cannot determine which, if any, health problems will occur.
In most cases, i**f you can see mold, don’t waste the time or money testing it. Instead, fix the source of the moisture problem, and clean up the mold.**http://insurance.illinois.gov/HomeInsurance/mold.asp
Cameron,
You do know that microbiology is lab work right? It has nothing to do with field work in mold. You cannot determine what is going on in an environment that has mold by just using microbiology.
As I asked you in the other thread, please point out these mold related courses.
But most people can be affected by mold if they are in an environment with a lot of mold. The body basically has a chemical reaction, such as somebody being over exposed to an industrial chemical. Do you agree with that?
No and please stop misrepresenting what I say.
The problem is, how do you know the mold is cleaned up properly?
Disagree a visual test is only partially acceptable. I asked before. The day before the inspection the house was filled with mold and improperly cleaned. Would you “SEE” the mold? Not if I wiped it away.
Improper remdiation can cause a crap load of health defects. So on a house you just walked into for the very first time and see no mold, your going to tell me its ok? I have not seen mold and had results come back into the 100,000 spore count.
When mold is improperly wiped it appears to be “clean” but where do the spores go? Do they disappear?
But I will take your advice and listen if you can tell me a way to determine air quality within a house without performing an air sample.
Teach me, I am willing to learn.
Remember you don’t know ANYTHING about the homes past condition, so how would you assess it?
You misread what I wrote. But you do agree it can cause health problems in sensitive people?
I did not.
Either Connell is right about mold or not. You cannot say he is, but plea the fifth when asked about one of his opinions.