sfogarty
(Sean Fogarty)
June 7, 2012, 1:20am
1
More stupid crap to pick thru.
Knox county requires a max of 4 inches between ballusters on a railing. .
The dillema is the individual ballusters. The bottoms are on or under 4 inches when installed but the tapered ones end up being shy over 4 inches at the top end.
Are they right or wrong??
cnorlen
(Chad Norlen, CPI)
June 7, 2012, 1:22am
2
I think a 4" sphere would pass through that - wrong, IMO.
belliott
(Bob Elliott, 450.0002662)
June 7, 2012, 1:24am
3
sfogarty:
More stupid crap to pick thru.
Knox county requires a max of 4 inches between ballusters on a railing. .
The dillema is the individual ballusters. The bottoms are on or under 4 inches when installed but the tapered ones end up being shy over 4 inches at the top end.
Are they right or wrong??
There is no grey area.
It is wrong but how wrong is up to you as in talking to the client.
We just finished a big thread on this (actually ongoing)
mlarson
(Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)
June 7, 2012, 1:54am
4
Call it out.
If it can pass a 4" ball it’s wrong.
I’ll bet no one ever fixes it.
wmisegades
(William T. Misegades)
June 7, 2012, 2:22pm
5
Call it out, let the buyer know and covered yourself. What they do about it is up to them.
kshepard
(Kenton Shepard, CMI)
June 8, 2012, 1:44am
6
If they use the IRC, it’s 4 3/8" sphere between balusters, not 4" sphere.
R312.4-2
wmisegades
(William T. Misegades)
June 8, 2012, 2:33am
7
You are correct. The exception for the 4 3/8" sphere however is only for the open side of the stair treads. The spacing on the guards of the walking surfaces leading to or from the stairs is 4".
jfunderburk
(Joe Funderburk, CMI)
June 8, 2012, 1:18pm
8
Code commentary: “A 43/8-inch (111 mm) sphere
rule is used for the guard on the open side of stair treads.
This minor difference of just 3/8 inch (9.5 mm) allows the
use of just two balusters at each tread greatly reducing
costs with no limitation of safety.”
kshepard
(Kenton Shepard, CMI)
June 8, 2012, 4:22pm
9
Thanks Will, I should have been more specific.
jshishilla
(John Shishilla)
June 10, 2012, 1:29pm
10
This would be bad. Do you guys point out handrails that are not graspable?
wmisegades
(William T. Misegades)
June 10, 2012, 1:53pm
11
Yes and I also write it up if it’s not continuous for the full length of the flight.
jfunderburk
(Joe Funderburk, CMI)
June 10, 2012, 3:37pm
12
Only on the homes I inspect with exterior stairs (none of them are compliant).
ccurrins
(Christopher Currins, CMI)
June 10, 2012, 5:54pm
13
Why not at interior stairs?
rcooke
(Roy D. Cooke, Sr)
June 10, 2012, 6:11pm
14
I use it for all stairs in and out Over kill maybe but I always try to CRA
jjonas
(Jeffrey Jonas)
June 10, 2012, 6:36pm
15
Why is it overkill? Don’t people fall down the stairs inside a home in Canada? :roll:
mcyr
(Marcel Cyr, CMI)
June 10, 2012, 6:49pm
16
ccurrins
(Christopher Currins, CMI)
June 10, 2012, 7:20pm
17
That was really my original question.
Maybe guard/handrail “requirements” at interior stairways depends on the density of the carpet/padding in some parts of the country.
mcyr
(Marcel Cyr, CMI)
June 10, 2012, 7:24pm
18
Guardrail requirements haven’t changed that I know of.
jjonas
(Jeffrey Jonas)
June 10, 2012, 8:47pm
19
Well, if you hadn’t modified my original quote, you would have seen that your statement of “…some parts of the country…” was purposely intended to read as “…different countries…”!
Since when are you all “PC” anyway??? :shock:
:mrgreen::mrgreen:
ccurrins
(Christopher Currins, CMI)
June 10, 2012, 8:52pm
20
jjonas:
Well, if you hadn’t modified my original quote, you would have seen that your statement of “…some parts of the country…” was purposely intended to read as “…different countries…”!
Since when are you all “PC” anyway??? :shock:
:mrgreen::mrgreen:
Since I started taking lessons from Robert.