I think I will make them spend some more money and let the ASTTBC give me a formal complaint, backed up with the data. What can they do to me? Tell me to cease and desist? If everybody pushed this issue it would cost them plenty.
Larry
I have to agree with you Larry they could be like the Ontario Home inspection Association and some of their Directors lots of wind little action.
Roy Cooke sr C.H.I. …RHI… Royshomeinspection.com.
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!
I don’t know how anyone could mistake the two associations. One is in BC and Nachi is an American Association much like ASHI who has members in Canada.
Larry my read is simply that “they” are obligated to protect their trademark. You are in the best position to decide what is best for you.
But food for thought - "If your trade name or trademark is confusingly similar to that of a competitor, you could face serious legal and financial consequences, including an action for trademark infringement or ‘passing-off.’ You can be forced to change your name and brand, destroy present inventory and pay damages."http://www.trademarkscanada.ca/index.html
Similar challenges included a U.S. association and the use of the term Registered Home Inspector too, years ago. The cease and desist is the first common means to provide fair warning. You are likely not the first or the last person that will have to face this dilemma and make your own personal decision on whats best for you. So good luck either way.
Good old Claude he keeps talking about what if and just maybe.
My past experience with OAHI is they are more concerned about keeping information from the members then comming to the front and helping all Home inspectors like NACHI has done and continues to do .
The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!
Remember Whistler
So theoretically, as a Nachi member who by association is a CHI, who is a National Certificate holder will have to cease using CHI otherwise he will be reported by OAHI to ASTTBC, and could/will face disciplinary action by and through OAHI if the member is in Ontario, and likely have his Certificate delayed until he complies. Okay, I am for that! 
What does Trade Mark infraction have to do with ability to conduct a home inspection to a professional level? Nothing. The matters are two distinct issues. Trade Mark issues and supposed breach of ethics even though the title CHI is legitimately granted to Canadian Nachi members?
Claude
Then why are the CAHPI members in New Brunswick allowed to use RHI?
Larry
Looks to me that she has only got the application in to Trademark the CHI designation.
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Until her application has gone through all the hoops tell her, OAHI, or whoever to pound salt. Until then keep posting on the Canadian Home Inspectors (CHI) forum.
Larry,
RHI is only protected in Ontario, under PR 158 a private members bill. All things considered it does not carry much weight as it is not a public Authority. It only thinks it is a Public Authority.
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trademarks/search/images/blankpx.gif
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CANADIAN TRADE-MARK DATA
*** Note Data on trade-marks is shown in the official language in which it was submitted.
The database was last updated on: 2006-06-06
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0821239 **REGISTRATION NUMBER: **
TMA490299 STATUS: REGISTERED **FILED:**1996-10-17 **FORMALIZED:**1996-10-23 **ADVERTISED:**1997-08-06 **REGISTERED:**1998-02-19 REGISTRANT: CANADIAN ASSOCIATION OF HOME INSPECTORS (PRAIRIES)
P.O. BOX 696, STATION T
CALGARY
T2H 2H2
ALBERTA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE: MARK F. CROSSFIELD
803, 1333 - 8TH STREET SOUTH WEST
CALGARY
ALBERTA T2R 1M6
TRADE-MARK: ** REGISTERED HOME INSPECTORS (RHI) ** DISCLAIMER TEXT: The right to the exclusive use of REGISTERED HOME INSPECTORS is disclaimed apart from the trade-mark.
INDEX HEADINGS: REGISTERED HOME INSPECTORS (RHI)
RHI), REGISTERED HOME INSPECTORS (
HI (RHI)
SERVICES: (1) Provide home inspections for residential homes.
CLAIMS: Used in CANADA since September 13, 1996.
ACTIONDATEBFCOMMENTS Created 26 August 1996
Filed 17 October 1996
Formalized 23 October 1996
Search Removed 14 November 1996
NUANS Search Recorded 14 November 1996
Examiner's First Report 29 January 1997 29 May 1997
Correspondence Created 14 March 1997 14 July 1997
Approved 03 July 1997
Translation Requested 04 July 1997 25 July 1997 19970722080054 Translation Received 22 July 1997
Advertised 06 August 1997
Vol.44 Issue 2232 Allowed 31 October 1997
Allowance Notice Sent 31 October 1997 30 April 1998
Registered 19 February 1998Thanks for the votes of confidence. I thought I was trying be helpful. So much for that! You guys have all the answers. I will bow out of the discussion and watch from the sidelines.
Sorry Claude
If we have all the answers it is not because you gave them to us .
You have the chance to be a big help to the Canadian Home inspection industry but do little
You choose to not answer simple questions , ignore ,or give a long say nothing reply.
You belittle NACHI and complain about it members posts.
You do nothing about posts made by your buddies and nothing about the wrong doing of our Canadian associations .
As Your Buddy Bill says .
Please don’t let the door hit your A$$ on the way out .
The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!
Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Roy - respectfully - what posts are you specifically referring to. It seems that if you felt Bill or someone else made one in the past 6 months, respecting you personally and emailed to me - I certainly am not aware of it!
So I state its a bit presumptive, and you are seemingly dwelling on old news. It seems to get repeated time and time again.
Certainly you may “think” you have all the answers. I would tend to feel that “we” can learn to help each other if we learned to remain neutral about comments rather than taking only one side. Again and respectfully that applies both ways.
So lets test the waters:
How many CAHPI or NACHI members have failed the TIPR?
How many have been tested?
How many are in the pilot?
Why was the percentage of NACHI members higher in the pilot?
Why have some NACHI members decided to stay in the pilot - while others have decided to leave?
What was the purpose of the Winnipeg wind-up?
Why do some feel that Cam’s statement seemed to slam NACHI - when perhaps like many articles or pieces of information - there usually taken out of context? I did not see specific reference to NACHI - did you?
Do you believe everything written in the news, newsletters, or even posted here?
How about the issue of Alrek and the provincial warranties? Are some parts different? What percentage must be changed to make it not someone else’s work?
Is CAHPI perfect - no.
Is NACHI perfect - no.
Was there provincial government reps looking at the National Certification Model - could licensing be near?
Is there a potential common ground between the 2 groups? Perhaps - but it seems they are both troubled in finding that common ground. More so some have layed the ground work on both sides with a lot a bumps in that road.
Hopefully you get my point. We can work and openly listen to one another - or you can continue your same old line too! Certainly I do not claim to have all the answers - and know I am not perfect. You need to start on common ground - not by litany of presumptions, or base today on what we experienced yesterday. Certainly learn from the past - but welcome the future with an open mind.
See I can talk about things in general without bashing NACHI - so please show me where I have done so.
“Respectfully submitted”
Claude
Larry
This maybe of interest re RHI.
http://www.cahpi-alberta.com/courses.asp
Also,
http://bcipi.asttbc.org/about.html
Also BCIPI uses Certified “HOUSE” Inspector. Nachi’s is Certified “HOME” Inspector, as in National Assoc. Of Home Inspectors (NACHI).
Also no mention of any alignment of ASTTBC/BCIPI with CAHPI, let alone any reference to CAHPI’s high standards re SOP/COE. They seem to want to seperate themselves from CAHPI BC. So much for National Certification in BC.
http://www2.asttbc.org/pub/051118edr.pdf
CAHPI(BC) RELATIONS. BCIPI President Gerry Goumans and I wrote to CAHPI(BC) to express a sincere interest in working TOGETHER to enhance the professional regulation of all house and property
inspectors. (See attachment 2- 7)
Sorry couldn’t find attachment 2-7.
Home inspection standards in the works
http://www.lestwarog.com/newsArticle-1297.html
Well now that I start searching I guess I have to reformulate my earlier post. So here it goes…
Gee it sure looks like CAHPI is seeking a working relationship with CAHPI-BC. Isn’t that nice?
Great now if they will only get together with NACHI things could be looking up .
Roy Cooke sr. Royshomeinspection.com
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Claude,
You asked,
- Why do some feel that Cam’s statement seemed to slam NACHI - when perhaps like many articles or pieces of information - there usually taken out of context? I did not see specific reference to NACHI - did you?*
Who did you think Cam was referring to; ASHI? I don’t think so, they do not have 500 Canadian members. NACHI sure fits the bill in his description as they have close to 500 inspectors. Many of them well qualified, just like me, you, Larry, Roy, Rob, et al. He certainly wasn’t referring to the other 3500 inspectors supposedly practicing out there, often referenced as the mysterious 5000. 