Clarification on GFCI/AFCI

Does a receptacle on a kitchen counter / garage / bathroom etc that has GFCI protection on its circuit breaker at the electric panel need it at the outlet as well?

Thanks

No, it does not, if it is wired properly. The breaker is sufficient.

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The breaker in the panel will provide gfi or afci protection to anything downstream.

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How do you not know this being a CPI???

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I don’t understand your question, Stuart.

Stuart that actually was a very good question.

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Were you not just 10 minutes ago bashing several people for being “dicks”?.. At least give the other thread time to die down before you so quickly change tunes :rofl:

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I know this. I’ve done four inspections and I’m double checking to make 100% certain I wasn’t making a mistake.

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That’s what this forum is for.

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Lol, yes I was.

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Hey Larry, I am new in this biz too but too be honest, too get a CPI status through internachi you must complete courses as you know. I feel GFCI protection is fairly well explained within the courses and required to have some knowledge of electrical to pass the course.

Stuart. Please explain when and why a GFCI breaker may not be the proper choice. Or conversely, when a GFCI receptacle may not be the proper choice? There is a reason both exist.

Yes there is a reason both exist. As CPI’s should we not know that?

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Then his question was a good one, not yet fully answered. Please share.

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While @steague is busy googling. Here is what I found:

When a GFCI breaker trips, you must go to the service panel to reset it. When a GFCI receptacle trips, you must be able to reset it at the receptacle location. The National Electrical Code (NEC) requires that GFCI receptacles must be in readily accessible locations, ensuring there is easy access for resetting the receptacle if it trips. Therefore, GFCI receptacles are not allowed behind furniture or appliances. If you will have receptacles that need GFCI protection in these locations, use a GFCI breaker.

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No googling Brian. Thanks for the smart comment. You are actually another guy I follow for info. Seen you google stuff all the time right???

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AFCI and GFCI breakers have a sticker on them identifying them as such. Breakers with a push button on them are typically one or the other or a combo of the two. There are a few acceptions but you’re better off asking a sparky about that specifically.
Also, you can look for a hot AND neutral wire being plugged/tapped into them. Check a breaker panel before checking receptacles around the house and you should have a better idea if a circuit is protected or not. Again, not always the case but it’s a start. If you aren’t sure about a breaker type, take a quality up close picture along with a picture from further out and post it on the MB

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You were acting as if you knew the answer about accessibility. But instead of sharing that information, you bashed the poster. When I asked you for the information, you were silent. I hope you are more supportive in the future. I would like to think you are here for me and I for you. This is a good forum for people who have the courage to ask questions.

I just posted a question in this same section 10 minutes or so ago. Might seem stupid to some people and I went thru training just like the rest of us. Go on there and bash me. Have at it.

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Yes, that is true, Stuart.

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Wasn’t trying to bash anyone, sorry if that came across. To do inspections we need to at minimum understand basics. I consider this basic. If this is not understood then AT THIS POINT IN TIME the person with the CPI designation should not be performing home inspections. Would you want this person inspecting your home???