Neapolitan ice cream is pretty nasty.
That’s not the nasty part!
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A while back, I called out a deck attached to a cantilever (11th month warranty inspection) and the buyers got back to me that the builder said the cantilever was designed/built to support a deck. I didn’t dig into it at the time, but does anyone have any diagrams, plans, graphics, ideas, etc. concerning how a cantilever could be designed/built to properly support the ledger/deck?
I did notice in this development that multiple homes had decks off cantilevers. Some even had just the patio door and ledger with no deck built yet, indicating that the ledger was likely installed by the builder.
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I don’t unfortunately, but they are approved in certain situations. Funny enough the inspector in this jurisdiction didn’t care, he didn’t approve it. Also. Kinda funny Jeffrey wants me to accept the potential newbies, yet decides to not actually answer or provide any useful feedback on the actual question on this forum. I’d be happy to provide answer to questions that weren’t asked on all forum topics and act like i know everything, especially if the answer had no relevance to the actually asked topic… jkjk, i know you can take a joke buddy…
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So, did I miss it? The “Solution” that someone else posted?
Hell, I’ve even posted more on your own thread than YOU have!
At least I am keeping your thread at the top of the list, providing links to useful data about the product in question, and keeping it easy for someone to maybe find!
By the way… did you ever read my signature??
Your question was.
Yes, but nothing useful… How would you, or, passing the buck off, how would someone “fix” what I’m talking about. I’m not asking for a legally bining prescpription… But rather what you see. For example. if you saw that one modified metal connector, and NOTHING ELSE wrong. Would you recommend the deck be rebuilt, or some other fix, and what do you think the fix would be?
If you’re to take that signature seriously, i’ve gotten more insight from a cereal box. I could go further, but i’d be worried the nachi forums would block me…Yes i’ve read your signatures… I’ve met you in person a dozen times… doesn’t discount the fact you’re not answering the actual questions on this topic… I appreciate your insight. you know so much about so much.,…
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No inspector should be dictating how a defect should be fixed. Note the defect and recommend having a qualified contractor make corrections.
perhaps you just don’t know, or you’re too afaid to answer the question? regardless. I’m asking typical and prescribed fixes. I’m not asking for A fix. Just whats usually done.
Yes, i know this… I’m not asking a fix for a client… I assume we have some experts here. I’m asking what are the typical fixes ya’'ll see in this scenerio…
i don’t know how many times i can say i understand thats not the inspectors job… You can read a dozen questions throughout internachi’s training courses that go above and beyond our requirements but they provide it for informational purposes.
The picture you provide is 6 pieces of a 2,000-piece puzzle and you are wanting someone to tell you how it should go together.
the connector… the connector. … I asked if there was a different connector. If not… No… Simple fricken answer. I didn’t ask about the cantilver, the wrong posts, the lateral loads, the separating joists, etc. I asked if there was a connector that could be retrofitted here… Seems pretty fucking simple… No? Okay… Thats it. No. Yes? Yes. thats it…
The way I see it, things have changed. GA used the American Wood Council prescription prior to adopting IRC 2018. The AWC prescription below.
Now, IRC 2018 is not as specific. In fact, 2018 is lacking in so many areas comparably it is almost laughable.
It will be up to the HI to report on this issue regardless of code. As you know, code is the minimum standard. And every home builder relies on the minimum standard.
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I agree. I mean obviously it is possible to design a cantilever that can handle the attachment. Not sure if it would be practical though. That’s why I’m wondering if anyone has seen a method.
Wouldn’t this be the perfect time to piss off Brandon?! 
Speaking of Brandons ‘problem’… I refuse to even attempt to hazard a guess with such little information being offered. Like a home, a deck is a system, and I cannot, will not, try to guess what the hell all is going on there. If I was on site, I would be examining every inch of that ‘system’ to even form an opinion of how to report on it, let along come to any conclusions about how to correct the problem(s) with it!
You see a hangar issue, I see a workmanship issue, and a huge RED FLAG for the entire deck!
That’s it Brandon. That’s all you get out of me on this matter.
Good Day, Sir!!
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Do you mean a method to incorporate a deck around a cantilever section such as a bay window?
This is the correct method in my opinion.
However, some say this creates a concentrated load on the ledger. You could always add a couple posts under the built up beam connection.
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IMO… only if the ledger IS NOT properly fastened to the wall with the proper fasteners and the required attachment pattern. There is a specific reason for all these standards/requirements!