Does this look like hail damage?

[cbottger (Charley L. Bottger)]

@kshepard

That edge damage is in the same place at each tab, right in the middle of the sides. Yes, the edges of older shingles are thinner and more fragile since asphalt at the edges of a shingle loses volatile compounds that keep shingles durable and waterproof more quickly than the asphalt in the field of the shingle. “The edges” includes all three edges of the shingle tabs exposed to weather, not just the middle of the sides.

That is not hail damage. That is roofers who don’t know what they’re talking about, or who are trying to make a buck.

And as has also been pointed out by others, that roof is at or near the end of its useful life, so from an insurance perspective the whole question is meaningless. The buyer is not going to get a new roof.

You are basing your opinion on one pic that may very well have some mechanical damage but there is also some hail damage on that roof. It was not stated if this home was in a real estate contract but if it was or is after reading my report any buyer would be advised the roof is at end of life. We don’t give a Chit who pays for replacement as long as its not my client in a Real Estate transaction unless its their own choice.

With a roof in the condition as shown above I surely hope you do not tell your buyers they are not going to get a new roof???

[wwilson3 (Wayne Wilson, TN 439)]

And a crappy install and repair lol This roof has everything

[sfogarty (Sean Fogarty)]

@wcollier

So you would just note that it needs further evaluation and “possibly” needs replacing?

The sellers insurance adjuster would be the one to make the decisionon the roof needing replacmeent. You are just there to document your findings.

[Tim_Prince]

Thanks everyone for your responses! Regarding the question of who would pay for this roof IF IT WERE hail damaged, I’ve in the roofing insurance restoration business for 4 years and I can assure you the insurance company would have to pay. UNLESS they had provided written notice to the homeowner that the roof was no longer insured.

[ccurrins (Christopher Currins, CMI)]

@Tim_Prince

Thanks everyone for your responses! Regarding the question of who would pay for this roof IF IT WERE hail damaged, I’ve in the roofing insurance restoration business for 4 years and I can assure you the insurance company would have to pay. UNLESS they had provided written notice to the homeowner that the roof was no longer insured.

So you’ve been in the roofing restoration business for 4 years and had to ask this question?

But what are the “notches” at the edges of the tabs?

Anyone with Any knowledge at all regarding asphalt roof covering can see that the roof in question has Many defects not related to hail damage.

[bkelly2 (Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)]

Not really sure, is this Hail Damage?

[gfarnsworth (Gary Farnsworth, CMI)]

Someone living near a shooting range, or a disgrunteled wife with a 12 gauge.

[dbowers (Dan Bowers, CMI, EDI)]

In Kansas City we’re in “Hail Alley”. I was originally trained in a 3 day class about 16 years ago to detect hail versus common mechanical / weather damage in comp and wood roofs by Haag Engineering in Dallas (the group that trains most insurance adjustors for the major insurance companies).

I also do expert witness for the Wood Shake & Shingle Bureau in disputes with roofers, insurance companies, and roofers.

I’m going with weather, age and mechanical damage … Not hail. Also curious about roof ventilation …

Sample comments in report:

*During the examination of the composition shingle roof, we noted deficiencies in need of service, repair and/or replacement such as: damaged and/or missing　shingles; damaged ridge caps;　nail pops or exposed nail heads; curled shingles; raised shingle ends, and other types of damage (some of these conditions may be due to inadequate ventilation, weather, etc). These conditions lend themselves to moisture intrusion and in our opinion the roof looks to be at or near the end of a useful life-cycle. *

We recommend having a licensed and competent roofing contractor read the report; review the roofing system on-site, its accessories and their conditions; and then service, repair, or replace any deficiencies or unreliable conditions as needed to properly correct them. We also recommend that you verify the insurability and acceptability of the roofing with your insurance company prior to closing escrow.

[bkelly2 (Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)]

@bkelly2

Not really sure, is this Hail Damage?

It was indeed Hail damage. Just having a little fun.

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

@cbottger

Why would I call for further evaluation If I am inspecting the roof that is what I am doing evaluating it I don’t need another opinion and I don’t use the word possible. That is wishey washey :shock::shock:

Perfect answer.
It is a cut and dried issue: Worn out roofing asphalt 3 tab shingle roof.
SUSPECT: Openings between the asphalt shingle tab exposing the roof deck. No 15lb felt or underlay. The deck is exposed to weather infiltration and many cause damage to attic and interior components…
It’s usefulness to provide protection from the elements is highly suspect.
Recommend: A licensed, registered roof company replace the asphalt shingles.

[bkelly2 (Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)]

@bkelly2

it was indeed hail damage. Just having a little fun. :d

:d :d :d

[kshepard (Kenton Shepard, CMI)]

The part circled is the only thing I see that looks like hail.