FPE panel . . . Has anyone seen this

Originally Posted By: senomoto
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http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/F/FPE.jpg ]


Steve
Horizon Home Inspection LLC


Originally Posted By: dvalley
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I've never tried turning that screw before but I believe that screw would adjust the entire breaker board to either come forward or backwards, once the cover is put back on. Adjusting this would tighten or loosen the breakers towards or away from the front cover.

Maybe someone could help confirm my thoughts.


By the way, I took my wife (fianc?, back then) and eloped to Oahu, Hawaii five years ago, got married in style (wedding attire in bare feet on the beach). We had a fantastic 10 days there.
I loved the awesome diving in Kona. While diving, the massive coral and colorful fish were the most beautiful sites I've ever seen in my life. Also, the various musical Luau?s in the evenings were very tasty but outrageously fattening. During the week, we even hired a local couple to take us on a tropical tour of the island. I could talk forever about our trip but I don't want this to go off topic.

3 days into our Hawaiin adventure, we found out that my wife was pregnant with our first child (David Jr.) while there. It was a very exciting time for the both of us.

A hui hou! Aloha au i Hawai`i!


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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Dave is correct about the adjustment screw (I’m not sure about his Hawaiian gibberish icon_wink.gif).


The same idea as the screw comes in the form of spring loaded covers in more modern panel boards.


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Originally Posted By: senomoto
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WOW, you know more Hawaiian than me and I live here.


I called out the FPE panels to be checked by a qualified electrician based on information I've read here in the past.
Are all FPE panel to be called out regardless?

Steve


Originally Posted By: evandeven
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senomoto wrote:
WOW, you know more Hawaiian than me and I live here.

I called out the FPE panels to be checked by a qualified electrician based on information I've read here in the past.
Are all FPE panel to be called out regardless?

Steve


Well, that is a matter of opinion.
I call these panels out for replacement when I see enough wrong.

Here are two photos of breakers that are double lugged.
One is an FPE one is a Square D.

Both were recommend for replacement. See if you can guess why.

[ Image: http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/d/doublelug.jpg ]
[ Image: http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/d/doublelug2.JPG ]


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Originally Posted By: jpope
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senomoto wrote:
Are all FPE panel to be called out regardless?


Yes. It's a simple statement in your report like this;

Quote:
The FPE Stab-Loc panel board is documented by the CPSC as having a high failure rate. Failure of any component within the electrical system can result in electrocution and/or fire.


The recommendations vary from inspector to inspector. Some will leave it at that. Some say replace - period. Others will say evaluate further.

The ones that say nothing about the documented problems are setting themselves up for a fall.

P.S.

I lived in Waipahu (Oahu) and Kihei (Maui) for several years. Maui no ka oi ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)


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Jeff Pope
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Originally Posted By: dvalley
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Stephen,


I always recommend all FPE panels (most importantly Stab-Lok) be evaluated by a licensed Electrician (as you stated). I also give my clients the following report concerning FPE breakers.![](upload://me4MtRe3nGBGET8vgZY42XGj9kl.gif)


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Originally Posted By: lfranklin
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I also recommend an electrician with FP.


Funny thing happened the other day. Had a FP and talk to the buyer about it. Then he says the seller is an electrician and would ask him about it. As we walked to the front of the house I was wondering what all was going to be said now that the seller is an electrician.

Well when the buyer ask, the seller just grinned and said I'll replace it that's a fire waiting to happen and if any body other than myself lived in the house it would have done been changed.


Originally Posted By: bgentry
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I bet he didn’t disclose it though, did he?


Originally Posted By: wdecker
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This is an example (the electrician admitting to his own panel being bad) of what I have been saying on the Member’s Only board with regards to home inspector’s being deal killers.


Here is an obvious safety hazard and an electrician was willing to live (or have his kids killed?) by it.


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Originally Posted By: bsmith
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David-


I found an FPE panel during an inspection this week and I enclosed the same info in my report.


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Bill Smith
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Originally Posted By: whandley
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I list FPE info pages as links on my website, include verbiage and the thread in the report and advise further inspection by an independent licensed electrical contractor prior to close of escrow.


http://www.inspect-ny.com/fpe/fpestlouis.htm
http://www.inspect-ny.com/fpe/fpeid.htm
http://www.inspect-ny.com/fpe/fpe.html

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