Then make that extension cord which is the same thing in my part of the world.
Extension cord and K& T are meant to be in open air .
Then make that extension cord which is the same thing in my part of the world.
Extension cord and K& T are meant to be in open air .
Thanks Roy. When you said
I thought you were referring to Federal Pacific (Stab-Lok) panels which have a very bad history down here.
Roy
i think there is a difference between yours and the ones down here
The problem is that you can’t see all of the wiring so it can never be known beyond a shadow of a doubt to be “safe” because it is largely concealed in walls, ceilings, and beneath floors. No electrician could say with certainly that the system was absolutely safe.
While yes, technically it is an accepted method, everything deteriorates over time and nothing can be expected to last forever. I refer it whenever I see it to an electrician and privately I tell my clients I would not let my children sleep in a home with knob and tube wiring.
And back in Edison’s day.
I agree with Joe on what is hidden could be the problem, K&T is outdated and should be explain as such. Problem around here most homes have been flipped and are low income. People go in paint, insulated and walk all around in the attic. Insulation over K&T .Strike one, add circuits without doing it in a proper fashion Likely taped together strike 2. .
Next problem Most electricians are not old enough to evaluated K&T.
Look at this way Model T would not be the best idea to drive down the interstate now days . was great in the day.
More loads, Uneducated People on the system loading it up .
I inform, Note it , and recommend to have a electrician evaluate it. It is up to them to make the final decision
Long story short Would i accept in my home No.
Wayne, I am not sure that I understand your post. First you say;
Then you make this comment;
Do you also inform your client of your first statement?
Wasn’t too long ago that I looked at the electrical that a Home Inspector had written up. Although the wiring was old I found little that needed to be addressed on the electrical although there was two pages written up.
What I did notice was the HI hadn’t said a word in their report about 2x6 floor joist that spanned 12 feet nor anything about a 1 ¼ waste line on the washer.
It seems that this HI thought they knew more about the electrical than another trade although at the time the house was built everything including the electrical was code compliant.
**…But still completely legal !!! **
(Perfect comparison) Thanks.
Which is true for any wiring method.
Most knob and tube has been modified and a problem is usually evident.
My complaint is with categorically condemning Knob and tube with no evidence of a problem.
True Micheal how ever wiring like people when it gets older just is not the same. ever wonder why you have problems doing something now you didn’t have when you were 17?
:roll: :roll: This thread is not about your personal problems
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Look at this way Model T would not be the best idea to drive down the interstate now days . was great in the day.
More loads, Uneducated People on the system loading it up .
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** I think it would not be perfectly Legal on the Highway** it would not be able to keep up with the traffic now 65 and most doing 70 +.
The model T was great in its day but it is not up for today’s requirements
I feel like Knob and Tube it is also obsolete .
Try to stay on topic Roy.
Wayne… (Other than the lack of a grounded conductor), What would your opinion be of a home (originally wired with K&T), having been rewired with HTTN, but still setup as K&T??? (Note: The panel was upgraded to a breaker panel, as opposed to the orig fused panel/blocks)??? Yes I have seen this once or twice. Still a defect in your eyes???
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If has been inspected and passed, I still inform if the K&T was still in use, In fact more chances of over loading if it has been upgraded and Modified with additional wire and a new panel .
Nothing wrong with fuses still legal lolol.
as long as no pennies have been added.
K&T makes me nervous, it is simple to replace when renovating . Most houses with it probably Balloon construction so why wouldnt you just drop a new wire down the wall?
In most cases these homes have been flipped and many short cuts have been taken . Yes the panel has been inspected but hat about the wiring? not likely in the attic or crawl space .
lolol did your trim your ear hairs today Micheal
Knob and tube should make every inspector nervous enough to look very carefully for defects.
The house was gutted, and the entire home rewired (not upgraded or modified) with NEW K&T. Not a trace of old wiring was left in place. There were no modifications or add-ons. The only thing reused was the actual Knobs and Tubes.
Wow why would they do that , Historic home ?