Read slower. I didn’t say that InterNACHI has zero programs targeted toward real estate agents. I said my marketing presentation is nearly all about building a referral business (outside of real estate agents) that causes your phone to ring so much that you are forced to raise your prices.
Marketing to agents is merely one part of marketing in general… which in turn is merely one part of business success.
Read slower…just because you hear yourself say something, doesn’t make it true. You have been, and always will be, realtor based. If not, it doesn’t seem that you are taking your organization down the same path you preach…
You just proved my point. InterNACHI’s website (not including this message board) is now more than 305,000 pages long! How many pages did you link to in your post? 5?, no wait… 4. One is to a 10-year old page, three are referring to the same program, and another is to a thread on this message board itself. LOL. Would you like me to post a list of actual current pages related to training, education and technical information? I don’t think this message board would technically permit a post that long. We have 145 separate articles just on roofing inspections: http://www.nachi.org/mastering-roof-inspections.htm
Again, I didn’t say that InterNACHI has zero programs targeted toward real estate agents. We certainly do that too. I said my marketing presentation is nearly all about building a referral business (outside of real estate agents) that causes your phone to ring so much that you are forced to raise your prices.
Marketing to agents is merely one part of marketing in general… which in turn is merely one part of business success… which in turn is merely one part of what InterNACHI helps with.
And with those 5 words, you just defined everything that is wrong with the home inspection industry.
It doesn’t take much to see we (home inspectors)are being portrayed as bumbling fools on TV and media outlets, most licensed trades think our industry is a joke. And you are part of the problem, your “for profit” marketing tool leaves technical information and betterment of the industry on the back burner while promoting profits and bank accounts as a meter of success.
You have some of the weakest standards in the industry, they are actually below our minimum state standards (fac 61-30)and therefore invalid in our state.
Every industry has that one guy, that one guy who makes a truck load of money selling snake oil and bridges to know where. That guy is you!
I communicate with some of your membership outsdie of the boards, they are starving for real information, techincal information, specifics relating to their state. They certainly aren’t going to get it here. These are good people, they are genuinely interested in learning and bettering themselves and I applaud them.
I have 2 cents for your response…like you have admitted over and over again, your a marketing person, and nothing more. A cheap suite dressed up for show with little of substance to help these guys be better inspectors.
I really don’t suspect you’ll find many in our industry who agree with you about InterNACHI leaving education and technical information “on the back burner.”
InterNACHI is known world-wide for education.
Again, you aren’t going to find many in our industry who agree with you… that we haven’t done anything “of substance to help these guys be better inspectors.” If what you are saying had any merit, why are most of the pages on this website part of any one of our many technical training modules? Why is nearly all of our site’s traffic on our course system every day? Why have those courses been awarded more than 1,400 governmental approvals and accreditations (including from your state). Why do so many agencies and other organizations approve of InterNACHI’s technical courses? www.nachi.org/approved
Is everyone in the inspection industry wrong and you’re right?
I have to say, I have taken A LOT of specialized technical courses over my career and I think InterNACHI’s courses (if taken correctly) are very good and very detailed. Kenton does a great job on the various roof courses and the electrical courses are very in depth and detailed, same with the Radon, Mold, and HVAC stuff. I have taken many many courses from many providers and I find that InterNACHI courses are very good.
The InterNACHI marketing courses are not mandatory. If you want to take them to pick up some marketing ideas, you can. It is totally optional.
I have really enjoyed being a member of InterNACHI and I really do appreciate all they have to offer. It is important to remember, you are not forced to take part in any marketing courses or marketing programs. But I would encourage everyone to take the time to take some of the InterNACHI technical courses and really see for yourself how much great information and tips are actually there.
The staffers who work in our Education Department would be pretty distraught if they found you comments Robert Sheppard. What you said just isn’t true.
Seems to me, if your courses were so educational and technical, some of the questions being asked on this forum would already be answered. Just a suggestion, why don’t you have your “educational department” monitor the forum to provide the answers your membership needs?
Master of puppets Nick, but some of us have seen the strings, incuding your membership. They are reaching out for the right answers, and getting them. You have some good members in your ranks, and they have outgrown the coop and are looking to become better inspectors, knowing the information to do so isn’t here.
Part of your problem is that internachi is a National for-profit oragnization that isn’t region specific, or state specific…the complete motive for your group is profit, nothing more. Florida is a different animal entirely, you should know that as you have a current license in our state.
Florida has it’s own Association that is industry specific in education, it is active in the legislative process and with other industry professionals in our state. Our base is strictly education and betterment of the industry, not profit! Every dime we take in goes towards the industry specific education and membership…not our pockets.
Like I said, you’re selling snake oil…and talking to convince yourself that your cause is just, when it only has one motive…profit off membership to line your pockets!
I see that since I’ve overwhelmingly dispelled your other accusations with concrete facts, you now switch and attack something vague like “motive.” Kind of wussy, no?
I run InterNACHI like a business. I don’t apologize for that. If I didn’t, we’d be just like all the other trade associations in our industry who offer very little in return for the dues they collect. InterNACHI is different. You’re an inspector… do an inspection: www.nachi.org/benefits.htm
We could not offer all that if we weren’t financially successful.
And I consider you noticing that InterNACHI is run successfully to be a plug for my book: “How to Run a Successful Home Inspection Business.” Thanks! It would be kind of silly for me to author such a book if InterNACHI wasn’t successful. Anyway, thanks for the plug.
P.S. The book is free to the entire industry as a download from InterNACHI’s homepage.
I want to help you Robert. If you want to attack InterNACHI (or anything for that matter), let me give you some advice. Concentrate on one weakness. Don’t attack strengths. That wouldn’t be very wise.
Technical Education is one of our strengths (might be our greatest strength). So attacking that wasn’t very wise.
Referral marketing programs (outside of real estate agents) is one of our strengths. So attacking that wasn’t very wise.
InterNACHI’s ability to offer so many member benefits because it is financially successful is one of our strengths. So attacking that wasn’t very wise.
Inspector education, marketing programs, and member benefits are all InterNACHI strengths.
And around we go…this is your typical modus operandi Nick and is very familair to some of us. Clever rewrites of qoutes that actually don’t exist, trumpeting of monetary gains as verification of accomplishments and all the while passing out koolaid like it’s the last supper.
Anything of substance?
You have an “educational department”, any way they can monitor the Florida forum and provide the answers your members are desperately seeking? Or is this it?
The sad fact of the matter is you make a crap ton of money selling these guys a story of success and riches while runnig to the bank with their money. Nothing more, nothing less. Leading them along with a carrot on a stick while providing nothing they can’t get for a few bucks in late fees at the public library…
Once they see the strings, they’ll need a little more than the flip-flop and t-shirt republic to guide them.
I am very glad that InterNACHI makes a huge profit. I want them to remain here for us and continue rolling out all the new benefits and education courses for us. I hate to sound like an InterNACHI apologist, however, there is really nothing to apologize for. They make a huge profit. That is the free market system and I believe in Capitalism.
It would be different if InterNACHI took all the dues paid in and never provided benefits, new classes, new programs, etc. But, it seems like they are constantly adding stuff all the time. Truthfully, I can’t even keep up with all the benefits. I feel it is definitely worth the $50 a month I pay.
I can’t stress enough, I am glad InterNACHI makes a huge profit, because I want them to stick around for the long haul.
This is not propaganda. This is reality.
I have no objections to attending local Home Inspection organizations to learn about area specific issues and the camaraderie of working together with local Home Inspectors. However, I for one, will always be a part of InterNACHI and look forward to the upcoming benefits, courses, and programs that will be rolling out in the future.
I am about to join a local organization that charges $75 annual membership plus charges $10 per month. The only benefit is a class/guest speaker once a month. As far as I know, there are no CE credits either. Not to mention, there are hardly any other benefits. That is $16.25 per month to be a member of our local Home Inspector Organization. InterNACHI is $41.67 per month and you get soooooooooooo much more for that difference in fee.
If you are attending the one I’m thinking of, and I’m sure you are, you are about to meet some of the best inspectors in our state…and country. The benefits from that will be far reaching more than you can imagine. You will also get to meet the founder (one of them) of the CMI program, not the program as it sits now, but what it once was.