Yep! But MP beat ya to it. So you (and him actually) get nothing!
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There was some goop on the grounds. Looked like paste or similar.
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Yeah, that’s the goop. Looked like the sparky spilled the antioxidant paste around a little.
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That’s why I asked about the feeder OCPD, those conductors are clearly not rated for 100 amps. Looks like #6 Aluminum which is fine with the 50 amp circuit breaker.
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Your eyes are better than mine, especially on this panel. From here it looked more like an arch burn than a smidgeon of goop. But hey, that’s what we’re here for and to learn from… 
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Same here… The photo was a little blurry there, when it was zoomed in. 
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Talk about liability! I would never ask a homeowner to take a dead front off.
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These where for ‘code compliance’. The homeowners were performing their own electrical work.
Why not? It is usually just 6 screws. You’re not saying that it involves risk to a person are you?
(G) “Readily accessible” means available for visual inspection without requiring a person to move or dismantle personal property, take destructive measures, or take any other action that will involve risk to a person or to the property.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that is probably what Daniel is saying. Removing a panel cover could be risky if not properly trained or aware of the potential risks. Asking a homeowner to do so would be irresponsible. Same can be said about climbing ladders, walking a roof, and navigating an attic or crawl space.
This is simply a clause in Ohio law that allows a home inspector to disclaim situations that could be hazardous, such as inspecting a panel while standing in 6” of water, walking on an icy roof, or navigating a crawl space with limited access. It has nothing to do with what they are allowed to do.
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It’s OK to give your legal opinion on what it says. That’s not mine.
Correct. The “clause” simply says that it is not part of a home inspection. You may always step outside of a home inspection if you so chose.
Again, do as you please. Do you wear the required PPE when removing the dead front cover? Every recognized manf, org, standard (except ASHI), InterNACHI says that removing the cover is dangerous. I’m not saying don’t remove it, I am saying that everytime you remove it you put your life at risk. Just don’t be cavalier about it. New guys don’t have your experience and might be afraid to say that I am not taking it off.
That is not what I would argue in an Ohio court. Just a view from someone who has taken OSHA training on arc flash.
Please as always do your inspections as you wish.
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WRONG!! Again, it sets the limits for what is required, not what is allowed. The state cannot require you to do something that is unsafe.
Exactly. That is why I made them change the verbiage from SHALL to readily accessible. This is public record.
That is correct. Keep reading you may finally get it.
I suppose these people are wrong also. Uploaded the wrong file. Try again.
Deadfront cover Square D.docx (516.0 KB)
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I get it, one could claim (such as an employee of a multi-inspector firm) that removing a panel cover without following NFPA 70E violates OSHA requirements and refusing to remove the cover still complies with Ohio law.
Looks like they put SHALL back in there Mike, better get on that and go set them straight once and for all. LOL
And readily accessible was always in there. But really, using common sense, doesn’t that go without saying?
(T) A licensee shall inspect a property’s readily accessible components of the electrical
system during a home inspection and report in the home inspection report the
licensee’s findings related to all of the following:
(1) Service drop;
(2) Service entrance conductors, cables and raceways;
(3) Service equipment and main disconnects;
(4) Service grounding;
(5) Interior parts or components of a service panels and subpanels;
(6) Conductors;
(7) Overcurrent protection devices;
(8) A representative sample of installed light fixtures, switches and receptacles;
(9) Ground fault circuit interrupters and arc fault circuit interrupters.
(10) Licensees shall report in the home inspection report the property’s amperage
rating service, the location of main disconnects and subpanels, the presence or
absence of any smoke or carbon monoxide alarms and the predominant branch
of circuit wiring method.
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I’ll go find the original verbiage and post it and the changes. Please don’t choke laughing.
Note the change to readily accessible!
“U” is now “T”
Here is where I educated the OHIB:
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Good info. Remind us in May:
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