NACHI No Longer Available....

Originally Posted By: John Murray
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I used to bring up NACHI from a Goggle search by simply typing NACHI. I have found that this no longer works or the link is so far back (Used to be 3rd one down on first page) I can not find it. I was able to access via Goggle by typing in “NACHI home inspection”.


Just a little heads up to the powers that be.


Most newcomers/clients will just type in the name. The complicated inaccessibility might have an adverse affect on business!


Originally Posted By: dvalley
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(left side) for ?home inspection?, but add an ?s? to that and NACHI pops up on the second page.


Chris,

WHAT?S UP?![](upload://aknpuDfhccrZKRyjQTQQ4l0sais.gif)


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Originally Posted By: jremas
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Google changed their algorithm for web searches and split up with Yahoo for sharing those searches. Google screwed over millions of people due to these changes. The top notch web optimizers are starting to figure out Google’s algorithm slowly but it will take time. This was a huge issue for many folks because the timing was horrible and as a result, Google is being used less and Yahoo and MSN are picking up more business.


I pay a web optimizing company to help in my ranking and where I was always in the top 10 with Google, I fell off the face of the earth. I am consistent in all of the other search engines.

In order to compete we need specialized optimizers who are learning what it takes to get back on Google. The company that I work with has finally figured out some of it and I will start to move up the ranks on Google once again.

I have removed Google as my search engine and recommend the same to others. This does not affect the pay per click that NACHI still pays for but only the regular searches.

If anyone does not believe in optimization and why it is so important then go to Yahoo and type in "certified home inspector Pennsylvania" and see who comes up #2 in front of NACHI.


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Jeff Remas
REMAS Inspections, Inc.
Northeastern PA & the Poconos
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Originally Posted By: Don West
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Here’s a long one for ya. It’s the only one I’lll ever contribute here.


Jeff is right. More importantly though, and SEO professionals know this, is WHAT people ACTUALLY search on. For example, I can guarantee you that at best 3 people in the last sixty days searched on "certified home inspector Pennsylvania". Jeff was one of them.

How do I know this. Easy. Wordtracker.com We web developers depend on it to optimize a customer's site. You can sign on there for about $7 and spend a day. You'll get an eye-opening education. What we really use it for though, is to learn if the customer even has a remote chance of taking advantage of the search engines. Bad news guys. Most companies won't be able to make a dent in their ideal market by relying on search engines.

What you'll quickly realize is the cold hard truth about search engines and their true value. The first two pages are as deep as most people have to go to find what they want. There are millions of pages trying to get on those two pages. They ALL research their keywords at Wordtracker, find the ideal phrases for their business and market, and set about optimizing for it.

For this industry, "home inspection" is the top searched phrase in the last 60 days at 766 searches. All other search phrases, whatever you can imagine related to home inspection, fall behind that.

Except for "radon". It's at 1338. But to optimize a home inspection site around "radon" would be difficult. You absolutely MUST have relevant content to the keywords you've chosen. Writing about home inspection services and building "radon" into the copy effectively, would be obvious to readers that you didn't really know WHAT business you were in. Radon mitigation and testing companies are the ONLY companies that can capitalize on "radon" in the search engines. All other companies, like home inspectors, would have content too diluted with home inspection poop to rank as "highly relevant" in the engines to "radon".

That's why so many sites dissappeared from Google. There were tons of SEO pros who had decided being a "pro" meant figuring out how to cheat or fool the search algorithms the search engines rank with. And it came back too bite 'em in the a$%. I'm telling you. SEO folk are doomed. The search engines have no intentions of letting them continue to fool them. it's bad for the search engine's results.

All search engines are moving to the mentality that "content is king". Why? Becase they are in the business of providing RELEVANT results to searchers on those first two pages. If they fail at that, they fold up and go home. That's their livlihood. If you don't get good results at Google, you go to MSN. So Google HAS to provide the MOST RELEVANT results. And they have been doing so consistently for years. That's why they are on top. They know their business. And frankly, they don;t give a damn if Jeff's site fell off the earth because there are more relvant sites to "home inspection" than Jeff's. For instance, NACHI, ASHI, etc. MSN HOTBOT, none of them care about Jeff or me or you. They care about presenting THE MOST RELEVANT SITES related to "home inspection". Period.

They (all engines) determine relevance by analyzing the content (copy) on your pages. But that's not the end of it. They add a LOT of weight to your relevance by analyzing how popular your site is. The main factor in determining popularity is how many OTHER RELEVANT SITES link to yours. Your page titles, Meta tag page descriptions, and Meta tag keywords also play into it but you will kill your rankings if those keyword phrases are not present in your body copy in a relevant way.

Don't fell bad or like I'm chiding you. I'll never rank under web design or web development or any other web related search phrase because it's too competitive and I'm too small. Do I care? No. I market MYSELF instead. It's the only option I have. I use my web site to help me do that. And brochures, and public speaking, and teaching short little "quick classes" at local churches etc.

Now---With all that academia stated---here is "what really matters"---

If you are an individual home inspector, you will NEVER rank highly on "home inspection" without spending mega bucks. And even then, there is no guarantee those rankings will convert to scheduled bookings. Why? Do you think all 766 of those searches live in your area? Hell no! they live all over the world! Are you gonna fly to california to do inpections?

So wake up people. Search engines are NOT the home inspector's answer. As a matter of fact, rely on them heavily and you will simply go out of business.

Marketing YOURSELF, YOU, is the answer. Face to face contact with the public, with realtors, with ANYBODY relevant to your business. Be the inpector in your region that the public KNOWS. Educate the public by teaching a continuing education class on home maintenance. When your students need an inspector, who do you think they'll call? NACHI? NO!! they'll call you! Use your web site to give you a professional image at a low cost. That's what it does best. Let it be the hub of all your OTHER efforts. It's ideal for that. NOTHING does a better job in that regard.

I'll pull no punches with you. I'd love to have your business but that's not why I'm writing this. I'm writing this because so many small business people are being fooled into thinking that search engines bring you tons and tons of business. They DON'T! Professional appearance, quality of work and HEY! Unbelieveable! While I'm writing this, the guy who sold us our Toyota Camry 5 years ago just called me to wish my wife a happy birthday! Today's her birthday. What timing! What a shining example of what I'm saying. You can bet we'll by another Toyota from him when the time comes. Hands down. This is not B.S. It just happened.

Anyway, take your business to a cheaper service if you like. Just make sure you get a good looking, effective communication tool for the money OK? That's the ONLY thing a web site does well. It's also the ONLY thing a web site does BAD if it looks like an amateur did it. Clip art, background music, waving flags, twirly gigs in each corner--you're driving business AWAY with your web site. And you'll never even know it.

Nothing's changed guys. The web helps a lot but you still have to sell yourself. Really more than ever. The web is just another tool to communicate, ON A LOCAL LEVEL, what YOU have to offer. The big guys own the search engines unless you are lucky and operate in an unusual niche market that nobody else is capitalizing on. The web helps you appear to be a "big guy" if you do it right.

Sell yourself in a professional way. Make YOURSELF known to your market. Look good, look expert, look like the best. Nothing says "I'm an amateur" better than amateur work and amateur promotional materials. DO NOT SKIMP ON ADVERTIZING! DO NOT TRY TO FOOL THE PUBLIC! People are too damn smart for that. They're just as smart as you are.

I'm done now ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif) Now go and promote yourselves......Hell I may have shot myself in the foot....Oh well. ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif)


Originally Posted By: Chris Morrell
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Don and Jeff pretty much covered it (though “home inspection” is up to 854 searches now icon_wink.gif ). Having solid content will always work. But whenever the algorithm gets changed, it takes a little while for things to get sorted out again. I’ll be working on it, but I expect NACHI to get back to the top pretty shortly.


Three comments:

Though wordtracker is great, don't rely on it too much. It doesn't actually get data from all search engines (I'm almost certain that it only estimates Google's results). While wordtracker only says there were 850 searches for the phrase "home inspection" in the past 60 days, our NACHI ad for the phrase "home inspection" got over 50,000 views over the past few days.

Don mentioned links to your site. Though it's great to have GOOD links to your site, google is trying hard to make it so that joining big link exchanges, et cetera, won't help (and may hurt) your rankings. Many bloggers have used this method to mess with Google results. Try typing "french military victories" into google and hitting "I'm feeling lucky." It still works right now, but if you rely on link exchanges with worthless sites, you might find your rankings drop WAY down soon. This is a method that a lot of SEO's use. I'm not saying that professional search engine optimization isn't good, but check it out before you pay the big bucks to do it.

The other thing is META tags. Most search engines don't even pay attention to them any more. I wouldn't worry about 'em too much. Focus on your headers and link text. Use optimized (but accurate) alt tags. These are things that will always work. The best method for high search ranking is to have relevant content. If you do, you'll rank high. If you don't, you may be able to trick 'em for a while, but not forever.


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Chris Morrell
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Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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Mr. Don West, good rant… I couldn’t agree with you more…Happy Birthday to your wife - Kevin



Member - MAB


http://www.nachi.org/convention2006.htm

Originally Posted By: Don West
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A couple of quick comments in Chris’s behalf and to end this discussion.


1--The ONLY thing you need to do as a home inspector, regarding search engines, is join NACHI and send in your 20 zip codes. Doing that will drive all the QUALIFIED customers, that are searching the web using "home inspection", to the zip code they seek. Those 766 searchers or 864 or whatever (miniscule either way) will arrive at NACHI (as it SHOULD be) or ASHI or NAHI or whichever organization does the best job of getting the prime rank. If Chris and Nick do it right, it'll be NACHI or FindanInspector.com. (oops! I mean .us) Then, the searcher is sent to your zip code. END OF SEARCH CONCERNS. Nick and Chris have removed the need for you to be worrying about search engines. Don't waste another thought about keywords, keyword embedded copy or any other SE "tricks". Just write meaningful copy or have it done for you. To worry with SE details is wasting your brain power. BTW, Web copywriting is vastly different from print copywriting. Get a book.

2--OK, now the searcher is in your zip code. Looking at a list of inspectors. The first thing the searcher will do is write off any company listed that DOES NOT have a web site. So GET-A-WEB-SITE! Somewhere. Anywhere reputable.
The second thing they will do is click the first company they see that HAS a web site close to their home. If the web site sucks, back to the list. Next web site. Sucks again. Back to list. Next web site. "Whoa! look at this web site! Nice. And look, here's his picture. Hmmmmm.....this is good information too.......Now, this is a professional organization. Think I'll call 'em in the morning. Let's see.....oh, theres a print page button. Great! I'll stick this in my briefcase and read it at the office. Now I gotta go take out the trash for snookums."

It's no more complicated than that. Chris and Nick just need to keep NACHI and FindAnInspector.us at the top and you're done worrying about search engines. Period. If they are unable to do that, consider dual membership and join the organization that's holding the top rank as well. (Provided they have a way to list you online. Don't waste your time with them if they don't.)

But, either way, AND HERES WHAT MATTERS, you better damn sure start worrying about whether your website presentation is top notch or not. Because if it's not........you're not.

Take care guys and stop worrying about search engines. Join NACHI and they get the traffic to you (if they do their job). Then, market YOURSELF in a top notch fashion.

You'll be pleasantly surprised at the amount of business you start to build.


Originally Posted By: John Murray
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Don West wrote:
Here's a long one for ya. It's the only one I'lll ever contribute here.

Don't fell bad or like I'm chiding you. I'll never rank under web design or web development or any other web related search phrase because it's too competitive and I'm too small. Do I care? No. I market MYSELF instead. It's the only option I have. I use my web site to help me do that. And brochures, and public speaking, and teaching short little "quick classes" at local churches etc.

If you are an individual home inspector, you will NEVER rank highly on "home inspection" without spending mega bucks. And even then, there is no guarantee those rankings will convert to scheduled bookings. Why? Do you think all 766 of those searches live in your area? Hell no! they live all over the world! Are you gonna fly to california to do inpections?

So wake up people. Search engines are NOT the home inspector's answer. As a matter of fact, rely on them heavily and you will simply go out of business.

Marketing YOURSELF, YOU, is the answer. Face to face contact with the public, with realtors, with ANYBODY relevant to your business. Be the inpector in your region that the public KNOWS. Educate the public by teaching a continuing education class on home maintenance. When your students need an inspector, who do you think they'll call? NACHI? NO!! they'll call you! Use your web site to give you a professional image at a low cost. That's what it does best. Let it be the hub of all your OTHER efforts. It's ideal for that. NOTHING does a better job in that regard.

I'll pull no punches with you. I'd love to have your business but that's not why I'm writing this. I'm writing this because so many small business people are being fooled into thinking that search engines bring you tons and tons of business. They DON'T! Professional appearance, quality of work and HEY! Unbelieveable! While I'm writing this, the guy who sold us our Toyota Camry 5 years ago just called me to wish my wife a happy birthday! Today's her birthday. What timing! What a shining example of what I'm saying. You can bet we'll by another Toyota from him when the time comes. Hands down. This is not B.S. It just happened.

Anyway, take your business to a cheaper service if you like. Just make sure you get a good looking, effective communication tool for the money OK? That's the ONLY thing a web site does well. It's also the ONLY thing a web site does BAD if it looks like an amateur did it. Clip art, background music, waving flags, twirly gigs in each corner--you're driving business AWAY with your web site. And you'll never even know it.

Nothing's changed guys. The web helps a lot but you still have to sell yourself. Really more than ever. The web is just another tool to communicate, ON A LOCAL LEVEL, what YOU have to offer. The big guys own the search engines unless you are lucky and operate in an unusual niche market that nobody else is capitalizing on. The web helps you appear to be a "big guy" if you do it right.

Sell yourself in a professional way. Make YOURSELF known to your market. Look good, look expert, look like the best. Nothing says "I'm an amateur" better than amateur work and amateur promotional materials. DO NOT SKIMP ON ADVERTIZING! DO NOT TRY TO FOOL THE PUBLIC! People are too damn smart for that. They're just as smart as you are.

I'm done now ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif) Now go and promote yourselves......Hell I may have shot myself in the foot....Oh well. ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif)


Don,
This is excellent advise especially for me just starting out.
I agree with you about trying to project professionalism and that is why I started this post. I feel that NACHI is an important piece of the professionalism checklist. I have intentions of referring Realtors and Clients to this website via oral communication. I feel the keyword that they would remember is "NACHI". They are less apt to remember the entire addy. So if the keyword (NACHI) is on the second or third page, it is probably not going to be such a big deal! It would just be a less accessible to a people with no patience; i.e. Realtors and Clients.
I wasn't aware that this was solely a Goggle "problem" and just wanted to alert the site crew in case it was an unreported problem that could be easily resolved on NACHI's end.
To the same webmaster and NACHI crew, thanks for such an informative website and an important part of the Home Inspection success "checklist".


Originally Posted By: Chris Morrell
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Don’s hit that nail right on the head. SEO stuff for personal websites (though I would argue somewhat valuable) isn’t nearly as important as having an impressive website to browse. Someone who’s searching out inspectors on the internet wants to do some research. If you were comparing a name and a phone number to a name with a picture, description, phone number, e-mail address, articles on home inspections, et cetera, which would you choose?



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