non vented firplace

Originally Posted By: bgraham
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Originally Posted By: bking
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If a non-vented gas log set does not have a placard stating that it is approved for no vent then I report it.


Also report any gas logs in bedrooms. Vented may be allowed in bedrooms in some areas but for my purposes they are not recommended. The reason is that most people will not provide an air source as the owners manual states.


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Originally Posted By: jsieg
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I personally don’t like the use of copper for gas lines… should be Black Pipe.


I know soft copper in rolls are sold for gas supply but not rigid copper. In either case copper is too soft of a metal to be using near a flame or high heat source. Copper becomes soft, expansion & contraction, if the fitting joint doesn't leak now I'm sure it will.

I bet it has leaked recently looking at all the pipe dope (yes, with that much a dope must have installed the fitting).


Originally Posted By: jsieg
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OH, don’t forget that the hole that was made to run the pipe through the FIRE WALL. The fireplace has lost it’s integrity. That opening should be sealed. The fireplace is now gas ignition but the house is a wood burning bon fire.


Originally Posted By: dvalley
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The question was…Unvented fireplace, Right?


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Originally Posted By: rcooke
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Never approved for Canada.


I agree I would not have one under any circumstances.



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Originally Posted By: Joe Funderburk
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On a similar note, what about this piping with a plastic covering over it? Seems illogical to have plastic coated pipe in a fire place.


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Originally Posted By: jsieg
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I don’t like it but then again I don’t know what the manufacture says about it… for that matter not that we are code inspectors does anyone know if there is a code dealing with gas fireplaces icon_question.gif


I think I would note it in the report that before, after & during using of the fireplace to inspect gas line coating for burnt or scorched coating. if it looks harmed in any stop using fireplace until having a licensed plumbing & heating person inspecting damages.


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jsieg wrote:
I don't like it but then again I don't know what the manufacture says about it... for that matter not that we are code inspectors does anyone know if there is a code dealing with gas fireplaces ![icon_question.gif](upload://t2zemjDOQRADd4xSC3xOot86t0m.gif)

I think I would note it in the report that before, after & during using of the fireplace to inspect gas line coating for burnt or scorched coating. if it looks harmed in any stop using fireplace until having a licensed plumbing & heating person inspecting damages.


To me they are more dangerous the having a BBQ inside .
At least BBQ inside is only for a short term these can be on all the time using up the oxygen in the home .
Why do you think is says in the directions to leave a window open when using.


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Originally Posted By: mtimpani
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Do we light and test gas fireplaces?



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Originally Posted By: clawrenson
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According to SOP - Fireplace II - D & E (Not Required)


2.8. Fireplace


I. The inspector shall inspect:

A. The fireplace, and open and close the damper door if readily accessible and operable.
B. Hearth extensions and other permanently installed components.
C. And report as in need of repair deficiencies in the lintel, hearth and material surrounding the fireplace, including clearance from combustible materials

II. The inspector is not required to:

A. Inspect the vent system.
B. Inspect the interior of the chimney or flue, fire doors or screens, seals or mantels.
C. Determine the need for a chimney sweep.
D. Operate gas fireplace inserts.
E. Light pilot flames.
F. Determine the appropriateness of such installation.
G. Inspect automatic fuel feed devices.
H. Inspect combustion make up devices.
I. Inspect heat distribution assists whether gravity controlled or fan assisted.
J. Ignite or extinguish fires.
K. Determine draft characteristics.
L. Move fireplace inserts, stoves, or firebox contents.
M. Determine adequacy of draft, perform a smoke test or dismantle or remove any component


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