I did not think they had them in 1985 either. I did not see anywhere where staples had missed as I thought that may have been the original attachment. She called and said the last thing they had done was in 1992 so it will not help her. That was just one that had missed its mark that I photographed for discussions sake. Most were where they were supposed to be. It was also very limited access. I could not really go anywhere past a couple of feet at the hatch.
I believe I will be going with C and include the photo as the attachment and let the underwriter decide.
If gables are included into the wall construction type then there wont be very many 100% masonry homes. Just about every one of them will be wood framed.
Since when is part of the roof structure considered wall construction?
Does the house already not receive an increase to the base premium because its “Gable” and not “Hip”?
So the policy gets knocked double time for being a gable?
Put it this way. If you have a cathedral ceiling on the inside would it be wall or roof? Or if the house is balloon frame would it be a wall or roof? Or masonary wall that runs all the way up, wall or roof? Gable roof is the design, gable wall is what it is.
They found A location? this is a great example of the BS that reinspectors are utilizing to get back the rightfull discounts. This nail on 8" centers is stronger than a common nail on 6 oc. I don’t think I’d be obliged to let it go. This is an instance where the sword should be brandished not fallen on.
I agree about the missed permit. However, if the house was custom built the builder may have upgraded.
Just an FYI. Be careful with the missed nails. Many times the roofer doesn’t realize he’s off the truss until the third or forth nail. Sometimes, they go back and hit the truss again…We hope…
I do not care if you want to call a gable end a roof structure or a wall.
The old processes called it a roof structure and the new definition calls it a wall structure.
You can not compare, what was standard practice in the MSFH project and the “new” definition. This is what they are doing and calling if incorrect.
Then “they” use the information to say statically 80%(or whatever number they are using now) is incorrect. When we do not stay up to the generally accepted practice we only make a bad situation worse. Adding a new and improved form on continues the madness. I am for a new form if it is clear on how it should be interpenetrated.
If I read that re-inspection report correctly - they are saying that the rating of a masonry structure should be changed to a frame structure because they have frame gable end walls?
Everything that I have heard from agents on this subject is that 33% frame calls for a frame rating. They must be some hellacious gabe ends to change the rating!!
I can tell you from being in the construction business for 20 years that 99% of the time the missed nails have been re nailed. There is no question when you miss.
FYI …I think our friend Meeker is pulling a fast one. Looks like a drill bit, just look at the tip.
I have inspected home built 2010 the deck attachment nails used # 8 nail spiral,
Can this type of nail be used for New Construction in Volusia County & The same for all of Florida County. I only came across # 6 spiral nail in homes built 2004 thru 2007
You need to look up the code for the year that you are questioning. I do not do code. If an engineer can prove that a fastening schedule is equal to or greater than the code it is likely that it will be approved by the plans examiner. In general a deformed shank nail has twice the uplift of a smooth nail.
My experience with wind mits, tells me it still must be an 8d for the credit.
