Pictures of Wire Sizes?

Originally Posted By: rwashington
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Anyone have any pictures of wires with the sizes identified so I can better recognize them when the labeling has worn off?



Richard W Washington


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Originally Posted By: dbowers
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Why think about pictures - get online with Professional Equipment and get a wire gauge. OR - go to Lowes, Home Depot, etc and buy 6"-8" of wire in sizes - #13, #12, #10, #8, #6, etc. Label them and keep them in your bag or van, etc.


Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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You also have to be aware that the insulation changed in the mid 80s in most cable wiring methods (Romex, UF etc).


Dull finish TW vs shiny double wall THHN.


Look for the -b suffix on the new stuff NM vs NM-b


Newer wire will have a smaller diameter jacket for the same size wire.


The only sure way is to actually measure the conductor if you can’t tell.


When I was inspecting big panels I used one of those plastic 99 cent calipers for large wire sizes but it is hard to tell the difference between 12 and 14 with it.


Originally Posted By: dbozek
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#13???



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Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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dbozek wrote:
#13????


I am assuming a typo ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)

I don't think there are any odd wire sizes above #6


Originally Posted By: rwashington
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I got the just of it and assume 13 was a typo as well.



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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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“when the labeling has worn off”


If the label is off, state that.

Guessing will bite you in the ????

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: phinsperger
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Greg Fretwell wrote:
When I was inspecting big panels I used one of those plastic 99 cent calipers for large wire sizes but it is hard to tell the difference between 12 and 14 with it.


Greg,

I have been looking for one of those calipers but can't seem to find them anywhere. Any ideas?


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Originally Posted By: psabados
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Hey Paul


Try Professional Equipment or check with Dan Frend to see if they have them. About 15.00

Paul


Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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I see those plastic calipers at Northern Hydraulics, now Northern tools. They are usually in a cup next to the register.


Originally Posted By: dbozek
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I agree with Mike…guessing the wire size is not a good practice.



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Originally Posted By: rwashington
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I would not state that. The client would think you are inexperienced.


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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Richard


I will try to be nice. My clients NEVER think that I am "inexperienced".

Admit, admit, admit when you do not know.

Admitting your lack of something will never come back to 'bite' you, if anything they will respect your 'honesty'.

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Although not used in the electrical industry there is a No. 13 wire …








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Originally Posted By: rwashington
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Mike,


I agree if you do not know something to admit it. I do not have a problem with that.
My issue is as a HI we should know different wire sizes. Just a tad different than say not being able to determine the slope of a roof. If the wire is undersized for the breaker then there could be a......shootout at the O.K. corral.


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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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hi Richard,


I have to agree with Dan's original comment about getting foot long lengths of the more common sizes, and becomming familiar with them, I used to advocate the wire gauge, but am no longer in favor of home inspectors stuffing things into panels.

As for pictures, that is a tough one I just spent 1/2 hour trying to get a shot of wire markings to illustrate this thread, and guess what just like in the real world most of them are illegible, and many are not printed but embossed just to add to the fun.

So have fun at the big orange this weekend ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)

Regards

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: rwashington
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Gerry,


Yes I did make it to the big orange and got those foot long wires. Thanks.



Richard W Washington


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