Question about IR elec. & mech. inspections

Huh???

Clear as mud… :^o

I help develop InterNACHI’s course material, but did not teach it right away. I waited until I had one year’s IR experience. Then I started teaching and helped InterNACHI with videos and more course material.

Why is this hard to understand? I helped InterNACHI over a period of time and not in just one visit. I started out working with Will Decker and also Ben Gromicko. I have helped InterNACHI on a number of occations. Nick said I was part of the InterNACHI “staff”. It was a lot of fun.

Ask Nick if you doubt what I am saying.

John, the problem you dont see is that you helped develop a training course and you did not have any experience at the time. That would be like an apprentice electrician developing an electrical training course before he even started working in the trade. How in the world would you even know what to put in the course? As you admit, you had no experience.

Imagine this, a 16 year old helping to put together a drivers ed course before they ever even drove a car. Pretty useless endeavor I suspect.

I started helping with the course material just before I completed one year and 170 IR home inspections. (I was probably on IR inspection # 150, or more, at the time)

My previous post says…

**Just before I started teaching (almost 1 year’s IR experience at this point), and after I was teaching for a while, I helped to develop InterNACHI’s IR course material and did some videos.

**Please provide a quote of me saying I had no experience when I helped develop the course material. I never said it.

You are mistaken.

You editted your post after realizing your admission. I was leadng you along John to see if you was a man of integrity or not. Now I see why so many others question you.

In the quote above, I added the red letters to help you understand (post #62)
Are we OK now?

I have not edited any of my post nor have I tried to mislead you.

You have not provided any quote from me saying I had “no experience”. I am not trying to accuse you of anything, but you are in error. Anyone can make an honest mistake. No big deal.

Pretty much a moot point now:D

Real training

That is a good class, but our class is LIVE with a real person, interaction and Q&A during the class. Some like a class with a LIVE instructor where they can ask questions.

WTF is a MUTE point?

Could go here also.

I am still trying to figure this one out:

John was teaching in both the past and the present or maybe the future (I am not 100% sure) at the same time. Quick, call Steven Hawking John created a paradox and still exists…or maybe he doesn’t. Maybe John is doing the time game like in Bill & Teds Adventure. He is planning on going back one day (to find Rufus) to get proper training. So in our “present” he is completely qualified and is referred to as IR Stallion. Now that does make sense, I get it now.

One that nobody can hear?

You did not quote all of my words. This is what I really said…

I got trained and did 170 IR inspection in the first year after my training.
Then I started teaching after one year of experience.

I helped InterNACHI develop IR courses, shortly before I started teaching
and also after I began teaching.

I will draw a picture for you if you need me to.:mrgreen:

Yes please do. Can I get a picture of the expression on your face when you read this:

and then another picture for this post:

Looks like the King took his court jester out back and threw him a beatin.

Unlike you, I feel no jealousy over InterNACHI having more than one option for training. I think it is a good thing for everyone. Where are the classes you sell?

Sorry for the spelling in my previous post, what I was trying to convey was that unlike the questions that continue to come up here, there is no question as to the integrity of Infraspection or of the quality of the training or that of the training staff. And the link posted is just the beginning of the training required to fully understand this field

Thanks for all the info, especially C. Evans for the extensive description of your method. thats pure gold. All this information is being saved, reread multiple times and put into a field guide of tips for my IPad. There is a lot to remember and consider to be sure.

You’re welcome Cameron.

A real world scenario to consider from today’s inspection. Think about what you would do:

  • Would you guess the ε?
  • Would you test the ε?
  • Would you go with apparent temps?
  • Would you ignore the temperature rise altogether and just talk about the pattern?

If you do a delta-T comparison would it be to ambient or similar component under similar load? Where would you get your reference temperature?

What would you say about it in a report?

Attached images are fully radiometric so you can experiment and see the influence changes in ε.

This is a thinking exercise, not a test. No need to post your approach in public unless you wish to.

Heat at a connection point (and then tapers off) is always a cause for concern.

I agree, gradient pattern = bad connection. No need for quantitive analysis.

No need for a IR camera on that mess why bother???:roll: