Originally Posted By: dbush This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
The Education Committee is now beginning a question of the day. Some of them will be easy, some will not. They will be done as a poll so you can answer them the way you wish. If you have questions, feel free to ask. This is primarily for the new inspectors, but anyone that wants to answer can.
It is considered not fair (ie cheating) if you review the poll answers and agree just to look like you know the answer.
Originally Posted By: dkeough This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
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The secondary function is to seal the gap from the roofing shingles to the gutter, so the rain water does not dribble behind the gutter. that would also cause dry-rot to the wood that the gutter is attached to. Causing gutters to come loose, and even fall down. Most home owners are familiar with seeing those large nail spikes that hold the gutters on, coming loose and sticking out. You can have them hammered back in, but the damage is done, so they will not hold tight again.
The sad thing is that with most re-roofing, there is no requirement to file for a building permit, so there is no inspector called to make sure that your house is being serviced correctly. There is so much need for re-roofing in this area that it would overwhelm the building permit office. They use the excuse that re-roofing is not changing the structure, so they let this type of construction slip.
Definition from DMRgutters website
The answer could be c or d. Dripedge flashing helps the sheathing and L flashing helps vertical walls and sheathing.
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
These flashings are not required in many municipalities, so the question is a bit moot. Absent of these flashings, would you call it a defect?. Technically, the first course of shingles are supposed to direct rain water into the gutter
My point to Dave B in a private message was that the answer choices were misleading and technically incorrect.
True edge flashing is most often seen on flat roofs where no parapet is present.
Answer choice #4 can also fit step flashing, where a vertical structure comes into contact with a roof. The answer is technically incorrect for edge flashing. Since edge flashing affects the fascia, which is behind the gutter, the alternate of choice "a" was a bit misleading, given the inconsistency of answer #4. Edge flashing does protect the roof sheathing, sort of (I guess), so answer "c" may also fit the bill, but not really...
The bigger point is that edge flashing is not installed on approximately 80% of the roofs I inspect. It is also not mentioned in Carson Dunlop's Illustrated Home, is not mentioned in the NACHI glossary, is not illustrated or mentioned in the NIBI textbooks (a home inspection school), and is quite often absent from the roof.
If we are to ask questions, I believe the questions should be more common to the things we see, and are likely to see. The answers must be clear and concise. The questions and answers should also be kept in the truest context of our scope of inspection, and standards of practice. We should steer clear of code requirements, as codes are interpreted and enforced differently throughout the country, and picking the "most correct" answer.
My 2 cents...
-- Joe Farsetta
Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."
Originally Posted By: gbeaumont This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
stolen by Chad wrote:
Stolen from the JLC forum.. last authored by Dick Seibert:
How many forum memebers does it take to change a light bulb?
1 to change the light bulb.
1 to post that the light bulb has been changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
bulbs.
53 to flame the spell checkers.
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"
... another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive.
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
"lamp".
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct.
156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in
violation of their "acceptable use policy".
109 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please
take this discussion to a lightbulb forum.
203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum,
and lightbulb forum about changing light bulbs be stopped.
111 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum.
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique and what brands are faulty.
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URLs.
27 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to
this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three".
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
44 to ask what is a "FAQ"?
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
143 to say "do a search on 'light bulbs' before posting questions
about light bulbs".
1 new forum member to respond to the original post 6 months from now
and to start it all over again.
Of course Dave, on top of all the bickering where the hell do we get a pool of questions ??? We would need hundreds
Seriously guy's give Dave a break at least he's trying to do something productive !!!
Originally Posted By: dbush This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Okay, we will close this one out. The actual correct answer was C, to protect the roof sheathing.
I do understand that there is some geographical difference in terms, so I will try to be cognizant of that in the future. Please check out our QOD for 1/25/04.
