Removing the deadfront

It happens a lot to me. It’s a bug. I’m now in the habit of copying all the text before I post. That way when it happens I edit my post and paste the whole thing.

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Happens to me all the time Jim. Hasn’t worked right since day 1. :grinning:

Try this method Press Reply then select the cloud icon on the left. Type your reply above or below the quoted text. Press Reply again.

After you highlighted the text did you click on the pop up “quote” button?

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Max. Do a ride along with an inspector that dismounts dead fronts.

1: Arc flash is a real concern. You are opening up your liability! You must keep everyone safe at the inspection!
2: Loose OCPD’s another problem that can occur. So what do you do if a breaker come loose off the bus bar?.
3: Not all panel fronts are the same. Some are a challenge to mount once removed. Lose a panel screw and then what?

Not for the faint of heart.
You are not doing your clients a disservice by not removing a panel front.

Just report what you can see.
I rarely open panel fronts any more. Who needs the hassle.

Here we go again :point_down:

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I didn’t see the OHIB members laughing today!

Nowhere in Ohio law is permission given to home inspectors to inspect the inside of an electrical panel for defects.

Now, if you wanted to remove the cover and stare inside that’s not prohibited. You just can not say things like double taps, etc.; I explained that to board member Pitts in response to a question that he asked me during the meeting.

As I stated to them today if you find a defect(s) you should be recommending an ESI to inspect, not a Licensed Electrical Contractor or anyone else.

Guess you will have to wait until the SOP becomes effective before you will get it.

Yes

More popcorn, please.

Make it last until April!

You need that much, Michael? :smile:

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I have been doing inspections since 2005, I have done over 2500 inspections, in all of them I have removed the panel to check for ark, double taps, and owner’s interaction to the panels.
Remember to run your hand backwards to the breakers before opening the panel.
Use caution and wear safety glasses

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I’m hoping he leaves before them.

well that seems to work…thank You Robert…

now You just have to remind me every day or so…

LOL, happy to help. :sunglasses:

Appreciate all the feedback. (I think i might make some popcorn myself too :wink:

Robert: Ride alongs would be great but its hard to find someone who offers that.

These are all valid points. I think the first step for me is to take the Advanced Electrical Course.

I wouldn’t mind hearing from any newbie inspectors out there on what your procedure is and how you got the practice you needed. Maybe once I finish the advanced course, I would try it on my own home and take it one step at a time.
Thanks Everyone

I use 50lb magnets with handles to remove the panels. It gives you something to easily grasp and hold onto while removing the screws. They are also fairly inexpensive, around $10 for two of them.

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If it is safe … I always remove the panels

Wow, Paul! Do you leave them hanging by the NM cable or do you re-attach them? :joy::rofl: :thinking: :cowboy_hat_face:

Would you place a magnet on your computer? Then why would you put one near something like an AFCI breaker?

You would be buying me a new panel.