Selfish OAHI

Another puppy mill

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Ray is that ad about 5 years old? I don’t know about up there but the market is slowing down here.

Another of the OAHI ex Directors feeding on those who seldome become HIs.
I think there are about 6 doing this

This not good for the industry and sure hurts many by taking money some can not afford to do this .

Roy Cooke sr. RHI… Royshomeinspection.com. CAHPI-ON

This is the above person still doing it


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No we have another OAHI past pres just starting up another one now.
It just never seems to end.

Roy Cooke sr

Okay here’s how accurate the above quote is…

http://www.peo.on.ca/complaints/Gazette/Can_Home_Inspection_JJ00.pdf
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The Registrar of the Association of Professional Engineers of Ontario, and Canadian Home Inspection Services Inc.

http://www.canadianhomeinspection.com/training.html

**Yup sure they have high standards!

Hi Ray,

I agree. It just seems that in a short time most realize that there is more money in providing services to home inspectors instead of doing inspections. I made a choice of not doing that long ago.

Thanks Greg
I agree there are many of us who just try and make the industry better ,try to help existing inspectors and
not BS all who want to be HIs with a lot of BS about how easy it is get going in the Industry.
This is really what has destroyed the Canadian associations .

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935

How about those doing the same type of thing through NACHI, ASHI, et al?
Certainly there are lots on all sides regardless of association or those UA’s - unaffiliated.

However, if one is “legally” running such businesses - and they serve through voluntary service with associations, and they DISCLOSE and step aside on issues related to their business interest if and when a “conflict of interest” arises - what’s the issue?

Is it possible some are feeding “misinformation” and not looking out for these prospects? Certainly, but who are “we” to judge - unless there is “proof positive” or they are doing something unlawful.

How about those providing “kickbacks” or referral fees or other types of inducements to those associations? Hey the list of possibilities is endless. But it better be based on fact not just speculation, or a few catch phrases to lure in inspectors.

Are you out to create a list of these “potential” people and businesses? If so there your list will be endless.

Ray - here is my biggest fear - there are far too many examples of this type of influence.
http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Columns/Helter_Shelter/2006/06/01/License_to_Deal/index.shtml

Claude I think you have tunnel vision and just don’t get it If people go under there own free will to a College to become a HI then fine .
But I do not ever remember seeing you go to a pre Meeting of OAHI and see the great selling job being done on these poor soles .
Volunteer to be on any Committees great been there done that still do that so I feel I can talk about this .
To use this position to make more money from teaching is just wrong and you should know that .
How about Two Financial secretaries Quitting in mid term asking for a proper audit .
How about for many years BOD members quiting for reasons ?
How about asking BOD members to sign a silence bond.
Do not the membership deserve a proper BOD who do not make money from their positions.
You as per usual do not give any answers just try and turn the story around .
If you wish to voice your thoughts about NACHI fine this is you prerogative .
I just know more about OAHI and how it should be a great association but it is still almost a closed door group.
Come on Claude you know more about it then I do and you wish to sit back and do nothing fine but why try and shoot the messenger.

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935

Sorry Roy - I am not privy to closed door, in camera sessions at OAHI or CAHPI. So don’t blame me for info - that I have no knowledge or access to. I am just another member that chooses to volunteer.

I do not proclaim to be the expert - like some people may think when it comes to trying to respond to “allegations” or best guesses of why or why not?

You must be a liberal supporter ( http://www.santacruzpl.org/readyref/files/m-p/noevil.shtml )

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935

No actually I am in NDP and Green Party country.

Thanks for an answer.
The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,… More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935

Greg, I wouldn’t want to teach anyone what I don’t know. :slight_smile: That’s why I inspect. I teach homeowners, not students.

Claude,

The problem is the fact that these businesses are over stating the potential of making money in the home inspection biz. That could be argued to be misrepresenting the consumer and potential clients. We know the pie is smaller and smaller, we know that newbies either fail in the first year or two or charge in many cases much less then an experienced inspector. And for the record I do not have a problem with you or anyone teaching home inspections at community colleges. What I do have a concern with is inspectors operating home inspection mills and being approved by OAHI. What makes those inspectors qualified and their courses qualifying only with OAHI? Seemingly the system is a skew. These mills do not come close to being qualified to community college standards and checks and balances. This also raises a concern vis-a-vis these mills having their courses meet CAHPI and the National Standards. Am I wrong in this assumption?

And in closing fwiw and the record I do not have any concern with licencing even if the National is used as the common denominator. Just so long as there is a balanced approach, equality, inclusion, and oversite by outside appointments. Not appointments from within.

Ray thank you - I think we are getting closer to common ground. Now I get a better read on your position.

On the issue of appointments - lets leave it simply summed up as “interim” - just a point to start. The positions in the future will be elected. So if more NACHI and/or any unaffiliated inspector entered the idea of becoming involved and become national certificate holders - the composition of the committees would change. Hopefully that makes sense, via election.

Simply as stated before - like it or not, its a starting point. Hence the term “pilot project”. Just giving it the test run! As such it provides an opportunity for testing and feedback, and an opportunity to realize if minor fine tuning with adjustments are required.

Interesting,

Is this a trial balloon? Are you suggesting that if Nachi members are interested or want to be NC’d that their membership in any organization will not be used against them? Am I to believe that Nachi members would or could serve on the make up of the board or council or committees? Would that guarantee qualify Nachi members to be disciplined by Nachi and not the provincal association of their home province even if they are not a member of a provincial association? This would be ideal and I think many members could swallow that.

Thanks Ray that is exactly what I wanted to say all along .
Lets have the colleges teach and Inspectors inspect…
The one you posted lately ( 9 Days $3,795:00 ±)
We charge less then the rest is a prime example of not helping
the Canadian industry in my openion .

Roy sr.
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Thats $421 per day for 9 days. I charge a minimum of $400 per inspection so in 9 days I have made the same only with more risk. What do you think the risk is for teaching X number of inspectors at $3795 is? NIL! There is no risk thats why they offer courses. Most will not succeed, others will be ill informed competitors and undercharging, and others are there out of general interest. If one is truly wishing to succeed one would theoritically take a college course and know they are qualified. The way I see it.

Ditto, Raymond.